Why wouldn't the bulb light up in this circuit diagram?

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The discussion revolves around a circuit diagram involving a lightbulb, voltmeter, and ammeter. Participants are exploring why the bulb does not light up, focusing on the roles of voltage and current in the circuit.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question the placement of the voltage symbol and the function of the voltmeter and ammeter in the circuit. There is discussion about the implications of current flow on the lightbulb's operation and the correct wiring of the meters.

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Some participants have provided insights into the functions of the voltmeter and ammeter, while others are examining the consequences of incorrect meter placement. Multiple interpretations of the circuit's behavior are being explored, particularly regarding energy loss and circuit integrity.

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Participants are considering the ideal characteristics of voltmeters and ammeters and how improper connections may affect circuit performance. There is an emphasis on understanding the potential differences and current measurements in relation to the lightbulb.

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Why is this wrong? Does the (v) need to be on the right side?
Is this right?

Voltage symbol V is measured in |_____ joules (J)| <--
Voltage is a measure of the amount ______<--- volts| done on a unit _____<---?
 
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PhysicsNewbie321 said:
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Why is this wrong? Does the (v) need to be on the right side?
Is this right?

Voltage symbol V is measured in |_____ joules (J)| <--
Voltage is a measure of the amount ______<--- volts| done on a unit _____<---?
What do you use a voltmeter for? What do you use an ammeter for?
 
cnh1995 said:
What do you use a voltmeter for? What do you use an ammeter for?

Voltmeter to measure voltage between two points.
Ammter to measure current in a circuit
 
PhysicsNewbie321 said:
Voltmeter to measure voltage between two points.
Ammter to measure current in a circuit
Correct. And one of them looks like a short circuit and the other like an open circuit. Which is which? :smile:
 
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Electric charge circulates very much like water through a circuit.
The electric charge does work as it flows through the circuit and loses electric potential energy in the process.
Positive charge starts at the positive terminal of the battery, the long thin line, with a high electric potential or voltage and flows towards the negative terminal, the short fat line, and does work in the various components that it flows through, thereby losing electric potential energy in the process.
The voltmeter measures the electric potential difference between its terminal and thus tells us how much work the charge did between the two connecting points where the voltmeter is connected.
On the other hand an ammeter tells us how much electric charge is flowing through it per second.
This circuit is all about the lightbulb, the X inside of the cirle component.
We are especially interested in the current through the lightbulb and the potential difference caused by the lightbulb in this circcuit, or how by how much the potential has dropped as the charge flows through it.
 
Is it because as current goes to the voltmeter and ammeter it loses "energy" meaning the bulb won't light up?
 
In the diagram the ammeter measures the current through itself, not through the lightbulb, also the voltmeter is measuring the potential difference between one side of the light bulb and the + of the battery and not the potential difference of the lightbulb itself, from that viewpoint the meters are not applied or wired correctly.
 
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PhysicsNewbie321 said:
Is it because as current goes to the voltmeter and ammeter it loses "energy" meaning the bulb won't light up?
Which meter will be almost an open circuit and which one will be almost a short circuit?
 
Have a think about what makes an ideal voltmeter and an ideal ammeter. For example you wouldn't want a voltmeter or Ammeter to effect the way a circuit works when you connect it. This means volt meters and Ammeters are different (see post 8). If they are connected in the wrong place (eg an ammeter where the volt meter should be) then it WILL effect the circuit (and may even be damaged).
 

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