Will using Griffith and Purcell benefit a beginner in E&M?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the suitability of using Griffith and Purcell textbooks for a beginner in an Electricity and Magnetism (E&M) course. Participants explore the challenges faced by the original poster in their current course and the potential benefits of these advanced texts.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses frustration with the verbosity and simplicity of their current textbooks, seeking more challenging material.
  • One participant suggests that working through Purcell's problems can lead to a high level of understanding in E&M.
  • Another participant questions the decision to seek more advanced texts given the challenges faced in the current course.
  • It is noted that Griffiths is typically used in upper-level undergraduate courses, while Purcell may be suitable for first-year students at some institutions.
  • A suggestion is made to consider the Feynman Lectures on Physics as an alternative resource.
  • Additional recommendations include Kip's "Fundamentals of Electricity and Magnetism" and Alonso and Finn's "Fundamental University Physics volume 2."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether Griffith and Purcell are appropriate for a beginner. There are competing views on the level of challenge and suitability of these texts for someone struggling in their current course.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the varying levels of difficulty associated with different textbooks and the potential need for foundational knowledge in E&M before tackling more advanced material.

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Hello,

I've been researching textbooks to use for my first-year E&M course and since I have no previous knowledge of E&M, I've been reading University Physics by Young et al. and Serway's book. I am pretty annoyed at the verbosity of the texts and the banal exercises where most exercises are just plug-ins. On the other hand they have helped me understand some concepts but they just take too long to get to the point as if the reader is slow to understand.

The level of the E&M course is very high for a second semester which is also why I am stressing to keep up. My math is good enough I believe for Purcell and Griffith but I am curious if you think that a essentially beginner in the subject would profit from working with both books?

How are the exercises in the two texts? Are they challenging and beneficial to do? Meaning, after doing the problems should I be able to master the subject?
 
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For Purcell, definitely yes, if you can do the problems, you have the subject at a very high level. First year classical physics misses out the Lagrangian and Hamiltonian formalisms, so you will still have to learn that in later years. I'm not so familiar with the problems in Griffiths, but from the few I have done, I should think they are also well worth working through.
 
I don't understand, your course is very challenging, and you're struggling to keep up, so why are you looking for a more advanced book?

Either way, Do Purcell, Griffths is usually used for an intermediate E+M course.
 
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mk9898 said:
I've been reading University Physics by Young et al. and Serway's book
Those are typical of the textbooks used for introductory physics in the US, except at some elite universities. Griffiths is typically used in upper-level undergraduate courses, usually 3rd or 4th year. Purcell's level is in-between, and IIRC it is in fact used as a first-year book at some schools. I seem to remember MIT uses it, but I'm not sure about it.

So if you want a more advanced book as a supplement, I would suggest Purcell rather than Griffiths. You might also try the Feynman Lectures on Physics which can be read online for free.
 
I would try Kip: Fundamentals of Electricity and Magnetism.

Alonso and Finn: Fundamental University Physics volume 2.
 

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