Next steps after Kleppner/Kolenkow and Purcell/Morin

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks in classical mechanics, electrodynamics, and quantum mechanics following the completion of foundational physics courses. Participants explore various options and express their preferences for different texts, considering the progression from undergraduate to graduate-level materials.

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  • One participant suggests considering Taylor, Morin, or Goldstein for classical mechanics, while others mention Goldstein as ambitious but commonly used in graduate programs.
  • Alternative recommendations for classical mechanics include Marion and Thornton, and Mechanics by Symon, with some participants expressing a preference for Gregory due to its clarity and examples.
  • For electrodynamics, Jackson is noted as a standard but a significant jump from Purcell and Morin, with suggestions for gentler alternatives like Ohanian and Schwartz.
  • Some participants mention Griffiths as a suitable option for electrodynamics if the recommended texts are too challenging.
  • In quantum mechanics, various texts are proposed, including Merzbacher, Sakurai, and Powell and Craseman, with differing opinions on Shankar's suitability.
  • One participant highlights the importance of language proficiency for certain texts, recommending a Spanish book as their favorite for quantum mechanics.

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Participants express a range of opinions on the best textbooks for each subject, indicating no consensus on a single preferred text. Multiple competing views remain regarding the appropriateness of various books for different levels of study.

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Some participants note that certain books may be more suitable depending on the reader's background and pace of learning, suggesting that individual preferences and experiences significantly influence their recommendations.

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This discussion may be useful for students transitioning from undergraduate to graduate-level physics, particularly those seeking guidance on textbook choices in classical mechanics, electrodynamics, and quantum mechanics.

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I finished the two semester calculus based physics sequence (using Halliday, Resnick, and Walker) at my school last semester as well as the three semester calculus sequence (although we didn't cover line and surface integrals or the theorems of Green and Stokes so I had to learn that on my own). I am currently working through An Introduction to Mechanics by Kleppner and Kolenkow, Electricity and Magnetism by Purcell and Morin, and Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences by Boas.

I'd like to study classical mechanics but I don't know what book(s) would be suitable. Perhaps Taylor, Morin, or Goldstein?

For electrodynamics what would be the next step up? Is Jackson too big of a jump from Purcell and Morin? Is Griffiths more appropriate? When I'm ready for Jackson, are there any alternatives to think about or is it the only choice for its level?

What's a good book for learning quantum mechanics after classical mechanics? Should I start with a book like Shankar's then move on to Sakurai or Merzbacher?

Sorry if this is too many questions. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, I've just been doing a lot of reading to try to figure which books to buy and I'm having a hard time figuring out what kind of progression is reasonable.
 
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After Kleppner and Kolenko, Goldstein would be ambitious but possible Practically all graduate programs use it. Another good book is Marion and Thornton Classical Dynamic. However, I preferred the hard to find book Mechanics by Symon.

Electrodynamics. (Practically all Grad programs use Jackson.) Jackson is a big jump. A couple of good books for electrodynamics for a more gentle jump is : Ohanian, Classical Electrodynamics, Melvin Schwartz : Principles of Electrodynamics (inexpensive Dover). Wangsness, and Reitz and Milford are also OK.

(I think Panofsky and Phillips may be even a more dramatic jump than Jackson, although I do like the book once a good background is established)

For QM I like an old textbook Powell and Craseman or Messiah. I learned from Merzbacher (Good). Bohm's book on quantum mechanics is very good (Inexpensive Dover). Sakurai is mostly used in a grad program (Good Book). I do not like Shankar as much (but OK).

P.S I like these Dover's not because they are cheap. They are also very good. Perhaps Schwartz is too concise.
 
CM: My favorite book on CM is Gregory. It's very clear and contains lots of examples. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521534097/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Taylor is also a good choice.
If you find these too slow, try Kibble & Berkshire
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1860944353/?tag=pfamazon01-20

EM: I always recommend Franklin and Zangwill
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0805387331/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521896975/?tag=pfamazon01-20
These are graduate level texts but they both start from scratch. If you find these too hard,
you can always come back and try Griffiths (it's also excellent).

QM: If you know spanish, you should definitely get this one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/6071601762/?tag=pfamazon01-20
it is by far my favorite book on the subject. Other basic (and good) texts are Zettili and Saxon (Dover).
When you are done move on to Ballentine
https://www.amazon.com/dp/9810241054/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Hope this helps!
 
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Xiuh said:
CM: My favorite book on CM is Gregory. It's very clear and contains lots of examples. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521534097/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Taylor is also a good choice.
If you find these too slow, try Kibble & Berkshire
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1860944353/?tag=pfamazon01-20

EM: I always recommend Franklin and Zangwill
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0805387331/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521896975/?tag=pfamazon01-20
These are graduate level texts but they both start from scratch. If you find these too hard,
you can always come back and try Griffiths (it's also excellent).

QM: If you know spanish, you should definitely get this one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/6071601762/?tag=pfamazon01-20
it is by far my favorite book on the subject. Other basic (and good) texts are Zettili and Saxon (Dover).
When you are done move on to Ballentine
https://www.amazon.com/dp/9810241054/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Hope this helps!


I know this is very late, but I was wondering what you thought of Kibble and Berkshire. Again, I apologise if no one can respond and this thread is uselessly bumped.
 
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