Undergrad Wire Tension Formula: Shape Expression w/ 3 Pivots

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The discussion centers around the mathematical representation of wire shape under tension when bent by three pivots, referred to as an "elastica." Participants debate the applicability of the elastica concept, clarifying that it encompasses more than just post-buckled columns, extending to various forms of elastic deformation. The conversation highlights the importance of defining terms like "pivot" and "wire" for clarity. A recommended resource for further understanding is “The Many Faces of Elastica” by Ivaïlo M. Mladenov and Mariana Hadzhilazova (2017).

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of elastica theory in applied mathematics
  • Familiarity with control points and boundary conditions in geometry
  • Knowledge of elastic deformation principles
  • Basic concepts of splines and Bezier curves
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  • Study the mathematical principles of elastica theory
  • Research control points and their role in curve shaping
  • Explore elastic deformation in structural engineering contexts
  • Read “The Many Faces of Elastica” by Ivaïlo M. Mladenov and Mariana Hadzhilazova
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Mathematicians, structural engineers, and anyone interested in the applications of elastica theory in various fields, including biology and engineering design.

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If the wire is bent by three pivots, I want to find an expression that represents its shape.
If the wire is bent by three pivots, I want to find an expression that represents its shape.
There will be tension of wire and other physical factors.
How can it be expressed?
 
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That does not sound like the elastica problem at all to me. The elastica is the shape of a post-buckled column, but OP is talking about a bending problem.
 
Dr.D said:
That does not sound like the elastica problem at all to me. The elastica is the shape of a post-buckled column, but OP is talking about a bending problem.
The elastica is a more general field. You are considering only your experience and should also consider other things like meanders, splines and Bezier curves.

The "pivots" are control points or boundary conditions, while the elastic deformation is distributed through the elastic bending of the rod between the pivots.

Because the elastica problem can become complex, the OP needs to present a more complete description of the question. Maybe define "pivot" and "wire".
 
Baluncore said:
The elastica is a more general field. You are considering only your experience
No, you are mistaken. The term elastica is well defined as the shape of the post-buckled column. For all the other items you mention, we have their own names to identify them.
 
Dr.D said:
No, you are mistaken.
The Elastica is now a multidisciplinary field of applied mathematics. While it can obviously be applied to the shape of a slender column, it is not restricted to buckling failures in structural engineering.

As a narrow minded structural engineer you have no right to censor the OP, nor to deny the use of Elastica, for example, to biological structural membranes and their equilibrium positions.

I suggest you find and study a copy of “The Many Faces of Elastica” by Ivaïlo M. Mladenov and Mariana Hadzhilazova. 2017.
 
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