Wolframalpha it says the limit does not exist

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the function \( \lim_{(x,y)\rightarrow (0,0)} x\cos\frac{1}{y} \). Participants are exploring the implications of using the definition of limits in the context of functions of multiple variables.

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  • The original poster attempts to assume the limit is 0 but questions the validity of this assumption after receiving conflicting information from Wolfram Alpha. Other participants discuss the behavior of the cosine function and its oscillation as \( y \) approaches 0, while also considering the implications of approaching the limit from different directions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the behavior of the function and the conditions under which the limit may or may not exist. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to check limits from different directions, but no consensus has been reached on the overall conclusion.

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There is a noted concern regarding the undefined nature of \( \cos(1/y) \) as \( y \) approaches 0, which complicates the limit evaluation. Participants are also considering the implications of checking limits along different paths in the context of multivariable limits.

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use definition for the limit of a function to show that
[tex]\lim_{(x,y)\rightarrow (0,0)} xcos\frac{1}{y}[/tex]

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fisrt, i assumed it the limit is 0(i don't know if it is true), but i showed it, but something bugging me, i put in wolframalpha it says the limit does not exist, http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=lim+xcos(1/y),(x,y)->(0,0)

so who is wrong here?
 
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at a quicklook
|cos(1/y)|<=1 for all y's,

so you can choose x small enough to bring you close enough to zero. The function will oscillate with increasing frequency, but with decreasing magnitude as you approach the origin
 


lanedance said:
at a quicklook
|cos(1/y)|<=1 for all y's,

so you can choose x small enough to bring you close enough to zero. The function will oscillate with increasing frequency, but with decreasing magnitude as you approach the origin

so, it really approaches to 0, but how come wolfram-alpha say it does not exist. did i wrote anything wrong?
 


A limit of a function of several variables fails to exist if there are different limits from "different direction" i.e. from the "x" and "y" directions:

Thus, you need to check if the limit as x -> 0 (treat y as a constant) of the function is the same as the limit as y -> 0 (treat x as a constant).

Let's check limit from x direction:

lim[x->0] x*cos(1/y) = 0*cos(const.) = 0

But there is a problem with the limit of cos(1/y) when y->0.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=lim+cos(1/y),+y->0

do you know why there is a problem with that y->0 limit? :)

Good Luck.
 


yeah its an interesting one...

cos(1/y) is cleary undefined anywhere on the line y=0, so no limit on that line will exist for any function of cos(1/y)

however, it does have the property that as you get close to x=0, |x||cos(1/y)|<=|x|which tends to zero

also just to add, checking 2 startight line directions is suffcient to show a limit dne, but not to prove it exists
 
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