Word problem involving sinusoidal model

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The discussion centers on solving a word problem involving the sinusoidal model represented by the equation y=30sin(2π/20t)+270, which models the temperature of an oven. Participants analyze the time intervals when the temperature exceeds 280°F, using the general principal solutions t=(arcsin(1/3)20/2π)+20k and t=(-((arcsin(1/3)-π)20/2π))+20k. The approach discussed includes calculating the number of cycles needed to accumulate 30 minutes at the desired temperature, with a focus on the effectiveness of graphical versus algebraic methods.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



y=30\sin(\dfrac{2\pi}{20}t)+270

General principal solutions:

t=\left(\dfrac{\arcsin(\dfrac{1}{3}) 20}{2\pi}\right)+20k, k\in \mathbb{Z}

t=1.08173+20kGeneral symmetry solutions:

t=\left(-\dfrac{(\arcsin(\dfrac{1}{3})-\pi)20}{2\pi}\right)+20k, k\in \mathbb{Z}

t=8.91827+20k

The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was I divived 30 by the difference between these two values of time to find how many such segments I need to accumulate 30 min of 280 degrees:

\dfrac{30}{8.91827-1.08173}=3.828

And then I can find the answer with a bunch of manual work, involving referring to the graph, but I just feel like this is a very ineffective approach.
 
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maxpancho said:
y=30\sin(\dfrac{2\pi}{20}t)+270
... this is the equation for the temperature of the oven right?
Did you try sketching this and drawing a horizontal line for the desired temperature?

So your strategy is to find out how much time T1 in one cycle y>280F, divide the cooking time by T1 to find out how many cycles you need, then multiply that by the period.

What I did was I divived 30 by the difference between these two values of time to find how many such segments I need to accumulate 30 min of 280 degrees:

\dfrac{30}{8.91827-1.08173}=3.828

And then I can find the answer with a bunch of manual work, involving referring to the graph, but I just feel like this is a very ineffective approach.
I think the main thing you have to watch for is the last fraction of a period... that what you wanted to refer to the graph for?

Anyway - that's the approach all right.
 
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Yes, well, I find where the 4th segment ends and then subtract (4-3.828) times segment from it.

t=8.91827+20*3 gives me coordinate where 4th segment ends and then I do the following:
t=(8.91827+20*3)-((4-3.828)*8.91827)

So, yes, I just wanted to know if there is a better way to solve it or maybe it is supposed to be such a graph-involving problem. Well, maybe with calculus though, but I'm not yet at that level.
 
Well, actually not that much of "manual" work, just a less algebraic approach.
 
Well you could do it algebraically - but the graph approach is easier to think about.
AFAIK there is no fancy magic-wand approach - pretty much all alternatives involve headaches.
 

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