Ocean Word Problem: Find Equation

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The problem involves determining an equation for the water depth in a harbour, which varies between 21m at high tide and 11m at low tide, completing a cycle approximately every 12 hours.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the parameters of the equation, including amplitude and midline, and question the origin of the time shift in the equation. Some express uncertainty about the specific times of high and low tide and how that affects the equation.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of the time shift in the equation and its graphical representation. There is a recognition that additional information about the timing of high and low tides is necessary for a complete understanding of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the lack of specific times for high and low tide limits the ability to finalize the equation. There is a suggestion that the problem statement may be incomplete.

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Homework Statement



The water depth in a harbour is 21m at high tide and 11m at low tide. One cycle is completed approximately every 12 hrs.

Find an equation.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



The answer to this problem is y = 5sin 30 (t-3) + 16

A = (M - m) / 2
= (21-11) / 2
= 5

C = (M+m) / 2
= (21+11)/2
=16

Period is 12 hrs.
K value would be 30 because 360 / 12.

But I don't know why it is (t-3) I'm not sure where that came from.
 
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Veronica_Oles said:

Homework Statement



The water depth in a harbour is 21m at high tide and 11m at low tide. One cycle is completed approximately every 12 hrs.

Find an equation.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



The answer to this problem is y = 5sin 30 (t-3) + 16

A = (M - m) / 2
= (21-11) / 2
= 5

C = (M+m) / 2
= (21+11)/2
=16

Period is 12 hrs.
K value would be 30 because 360 / 12.

But I don't know why it is (t-3) I'm not sure where that came from.
Is there a little bit more to the problem statement? What times are high tide and low tide? You need to know those times in order to get the time part of your equation correct... :smile:
 
Veronica_Oles said:

Homework Statement



The water depth in a harbour is 21m at high tide and 11m at low tide. One cycle is completed approximately every 12 hrs.

Find an equation.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



The answer to this problem is y = 5sin 30 (t-3) + 16

A = (M - m) / 2
= (21-11) / 2
= 5

C = (M+m) / 2
= (21+11)/2
=16

Period is 12 hrs.
K value would be 30 because 360 / 12.

But I don't know why it is (t-3) I'm not sure where that came from.
How would the graph of ##y = 5\sin(30t) + 16## look in comparison to ##y = 5\sin(30(t - 3)) + 16##?
 
Mark44 said:
How would the graph of ##y = 5\sin(30t) + 16## look in comparison to ##y = 5\sin(30(t - 3)) + 16##?
Wouldn't the second graph be shifted 3 units to the right?
 
Veronica_Oles said:
Wouldn't the second graph be shifted 3 units to the right?
Yes. So the point (0, 16) on the first graph is shifted to the right by 3 (hours?) is now at (3, 16).
 
Veronica_Oles said:
Wouldn't the second graph be shifted 3 units to the right?
Why is it shifted? What in the original problem statement helps you to figure out when low tide is? You cannot answer this schoolwork problem without that information. And our help is limited by the accuracy of what you post about the Problem Statement.

EDIT -- Apologies, but this is a very straightforward problem if you post all of the question information.
 

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