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This forum discussion centers around the daily Wordle game from the New York Times, specifically Wordle 393 and 395. Participants share their results and strategies, highlighting the importance of word selection and guessing techniques. Users mention starting words like 'EARLY', 'PIOUS', and 'ADIEU' as effective openers. Additionally, the conversation touches on the game's timing, noting that Wordle updates at midnight local time, which can vary based on users' time zones.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Wordle game mechanics
  • Familiarity with common five-letter English words
  • Knowledge of basic guessing strategies in word games
  • Awareness of time zone differences affecting game updates
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  • Research effective starting words for Wordle strategies
  • Explore variations of Wordle, such as Octordle and Letterle
  • Learn about the linguistic structure of five-letter words in different languages
  • Investigate the psychological effects of word games on cognitive function
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Word enthusiasts, casual gamers, and anyone looking to improve their Wordle performance or explore similar word-based games.

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Lots of things going on today, almost forgot to play….

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Streak still strong at solving Wordle 552 days in a row. 🙂
 
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Wordle 1 228 3/6

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Edit: I was left with TULIP or TUNIC after the first. I randomized wrong …
 
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Wordle 1,228 3/6

🟨🟩⬛⬛⬛ [NURSE] 8 left: AUNTY BUNNY FUNKY JUNTA JUNTO MUNCH PUNCH TUNIC
🟩⬛🟨⬛⬛ [TACKY] filter -1 left
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [TUNIC]
 
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Wordle 1,228 4/6

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After my third word I was stumped, even though I had all six letters (C I T U N). So I went and fixed breakfast. Came back and saw the answer right off.
 
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gmax137 said:
six letters
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I think I found your problem … 😉
 
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Orodruin said:
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I think I found your problem … 😉
Oops!
 
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Down the rabbit hole again.
Wordle 1,228 6/6

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After my problem seeing the word (given all 5 letters), I made an Excel sheet to do the permutations. I wish I could say I used a clever formula to develop the permutations, but instead I brute forced the four-letter permutations, then used some moderately clever cut&paste to come up with all 120. Good thing it's five not six letters, the 6 letter 720 perms would have been more than I would take on. So next time I know 5 letters I will be ready, lol.
 
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Wordle 1 229 3/6

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Only one possibility after the two seed words…
 
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Wordle 1,229 3/6

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I felt pretty good getting this one in three
 
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Wordle 1,229 3/6

🟨⬛⬛🟨⬛ [STRAY] 17 left
🟨🟨⬛⬛⬛ [LEUCH] filter - 2 left: EASEL FALSE
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [EASEL] most probable
 
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jack action said:
Wordle 1,229 3/6

🟨⬛⬛🟨⬛ [STRAY] 17 left
🟨🟨⬛⬛⬛ [LEUCH] filter - 2 left: EASEL FALSE
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [EASEL] most probable
How on Earth is EASEL more probable than FALSE? FALSE feels like a significantly more common word in my book.
 
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Orodruin said:
How on Earth is EASEL more probable than FALSE? FALSE feels like a significantly more common word in my book.
It is not about how common it is but how more likely a human would choose it; especially one selecting a word for the common man doing a puzzle to relax.

FALSE has a negative connotation. EASEL is more neutral. It even makes you think about a relaxing hobby: painting.

Here are the type of images that pops up when searching for those words on DuckDuckGo:

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Which one do you find more relaxing, inviting, and positive?
 
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jack action said:
It is not about how common it is but how more likely a human would choose it; especially one selecting a word for the common man doing a puzzle to relax.

FALSE has a negative connotation. EASEL is more neutral. It even makes you think about a relaxing hobby: painting.

Here are the type of images that pops up when searching for those words on DuckDuckGo:


Which one do you find more relaxing, inviting, and positive?
That if anything is conjecture. I would select a more common word like FALSE as making a more relaxed game as casual users are more likely to find it. Additional connotations may come in relevant but only at a secondary level.
 
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Orodruin said:
I would select a more common word like FALSE as making a more relaxed game as casual users are more likely to find it.
Yet, in this case ...
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I'll keep selecting the right answer more often than not until proven otherwise.
 
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jack action said:
Yet, in this case ...
I'll keep selecting the right answer more often than not until proven otherwise.
That’s not how science works. You are the one making the hypothesis that you can select the correct answer more often than random selection would. You have yet to actually prove this.
 
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Orodruin said:
That’s not how science works. You are the one making the hypothesis that you can select the correct answer more often than random selection would. You have yet to actually prove this.
  • This is how science works.
  • Yes, I am making a hypothesis.
  • I am in the process of proving it. (Will it work? Nobody knows.)
  • This is why I'm showing my selection process at every game. I do not state facts, I state my reasoning for selecting my words.
  • It has gone really well up until now. (Can you imagine that my program suggested - quasi-randomly[1] - FALSE as a filter word for the 2-word list EASEL and FALSE? It is far from being the first time I won that bet.)
  • I cannot go faster than NYT publishes a new puzzle because it is only with them that this hypothesis would work. (Because the basis of my hypothesis is that a [very biased] human selects every solution.)


[1] The program removed all letters already found in each word and ordered the remaining letters by count. In this case, all letters were removed from EASEL and only F appeared in FALSE. It then parsed the list of possible answers (2 words, in this case) to see if a word contained all the remaining letters (in this case, only F) and, obviously, FALSE was the only possibility.

If there weren't any words in this list, it would have parsed the complete list of words to find appropriate filter words for as many as possible remaining letters, starting with the most popular ones.
 
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jack action said:
I am in the process of proving it. (Will it work? Nobody knows.)
Then don't make statements like this
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I'll keep selecting the right answer more often than not until proven otherwise.
until you have proven it conclusively with reasonable methodology at a reasonable confidence level.
 
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Orodruin said:
Then don't make statements like this

until you have proven it conclusively with reasonable methodology at a reasonable confidence level.
So I'm supposed to NOT use a methodology to prove a hypothesis BEFORE I can prove the hypothesis works? How do I do that? It doesn't seem very scientifiky. Again, I don't make statements, I think out loud and share with people.

Just to inform you in advance, if somehow I find out along the way that it doesn't work, I'll change my methodology without any notice. Whether it works or not, don't expect an article published in a scientific journal either.

All I know is that when I'm stuck with selecting between two words, my human brain must have a thought process to do so. I would gladly ask you how you do it, but I won't go down that road again.

This is for fun. I don't think PF will be sued because someone followed my methodology to solve NYT Wordle and lowered their statistics because of it.

To quote you:
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Your insistence on this is getting tiresome.
 
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jack action said:
So I'm supposed to NOT use a methodology to prove a hypothesis BEFORE I can prove the hypothesis works?
No, that is not what I said. Please read what I am saying instead of making allegations. What I said was that you should not claim it is on others to prove your hypothesis wrong. What you are supposed to do is to collect sufficient data to support your claim before you unequivocally state that you are definitely selecting the correct answer more often than others.
 

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