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[Herman Trivilino]

Wordle 1,087 5/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,088 4/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,088 5/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 088 4/6

 

[kuruman]

Wordle 1,088 3/6

 

[fresh_42]

Wordle 1,088 5/6

 

[gmax137]

Wordle 1,088 5/6

 

[dwarde]

ARRRGG right in front of me the whole time.
Wordle 1,088 X/6

 

[fresh_42]

ARRRGG right in front of me the whole time.

Using participles is in my mind cheating. It is on the same level as using plural 's' or past tense 'ed', brand names, or comic language.

 

[Herman Trivilino]

Wordle 1,088 5/6

 

[fresh_42]

Wordle 1,089 6/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,089 3/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,089 4/6

 

[kuruman]

Wordle 1,089 3/6

 

[Herman Trivilino]

Wordle 1,089 5/6

 

[gmax137]

a hard one for me, not sure why

Wordle 1,089 5/6

 

[sbrothy]

Wordle 1,089 6/6*








Absolutely last chance. But I got it! :/

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,089 4/6

 

[OmCheeto]

a hard one for me, not sure why

Wordle 1,089 5/6

Well, 5 was globally the second most popular number of tries to finish the game, so you didn't do that badly.

Given that your first guess yielded 16 potential solutions and 86 accepted words is why I augment my brain with a spreadsheet. I had almost the exact same scenario when I matched the last two letters. Knowing those numbers, I knew I should switch out of self imposed hard mode into ultra safe mode. I then told my spreadsheet to find the 5 most popular letters for the remaining possible solutions, and it gave me a word that yielded only 1 solution.

Some people question this method as being the equivalent of cheating, and I concur. But one day, they'll wake up, look at a picture of a musical band made up of VERY famous musicians, and not remember the name of one of them(Tom Petty). And then the next day, they'll not remember the name of another member(Roy Orbison) of the band. And then they'll realize, that sometimes, some old peoples brains are cheating them out of what they once knew, at which point, they snap, and create a new spreadsheet, to keep track of all this stuff, and instead of being an angry old person, they adopt a set of mental crutches, that will support them for a few more years.

game 1,089​	​
attempts to solve​	global players​
4​	41.5%​
5​	28.7%​
3​	20.7%​
6​	6.2%​
2​	2.6%​
failed​	0.3%​
1​	0.0%​

 

[fresh_42]

Wordle 1,090 2/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 090 3/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,090 3/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,090 5/6

 

[kuruman]

Wordle 1,090 3/6

 

[kuruman]

Some people question this method as being the equivalent of cheating, and I concur.

I have argued with myself whether using spreadsheets or other such aids is a form of cheating and I decided that it is not. In this case, cheating (or lack thereof) is in the mind of the beholder. I think of "cheating" as gaining unfair advantage over others by not following the rules in a game or competition.

Here we have a game in which we are tasked with finding a target word in at most six tries. There is only one rule, "Each guess must be a valid 5-letter word." The algorithm does not allow invalid 5-letter words, therefore the rule cannot be violated that way. This brings us to the edge of the proverbial slippery slope.

Question 1: Is it cheating to have a list of all 12,972 valid 5-letter words and check for matches?
Answer 1: No, because the list is freely available on the web. Everyone who plays the game obviously has web access and hence list access. No unfair advantage here.

Question 2: Is printing the list from the web cheating?
Answer 2: No, anyone can do it so no unfair advantage here either.

Question 3: Is loading the list into a spreadsheet cheating?
Answer 2: No, what difference does it make other than hard copy is harder to manage and search than electronic form. No unfair advantage here.

Question 3: Is writing VBA code to facilitate the search of matches on the spreadsheet cheating?
Answer 3: Writing code to automate the search, instead of doing it manually, expedites the process. There is the advantage of shorter completion time. However, it is not unfair to people who cannot write code because this game is not a timed task. Players can take as much time as they need to complete it.

In conclusion, I think that people who consider using the list and spreadsheets as "cheating" have already chosen what they want to get out of this game and how. Then they call cheaters those who don't share their choices. That's unfair.

It has already been mentioned in this thread that we all get out of the game what we want to get out. I wholeheartedly agree, so let's leave it at that.

 

[jack action]

Question 4: Is executing a Python code I wrote to solve the puzzle automatically online using my VBA code to facilitate the search and then posting it on PF automatically cheating?
Answer 4: No, because writing such code is just facilitating what I would have done manually anyway. The only problem is that although it exercised my brain while coding, there is no point in executing the code after it is written.

Question 5: Is executing a daily CRON job while I sleep, to run a Python code I found online to solve the puzzle automatically online and then posting it on PF automatically cheating?
Answer 5: Maybe not, but what would be the point?

 

[gmax137]

Wordle 1,090 5/6







I've had way too many 5's lately. I wonder if maybe "cheating" is something I should look into. OTOH, if I did that, I would worry too much about it. That would ruin the fun.

 

[fresh_42]

Wordle 1,090 5/6







I've had way too many 5's lately. I wonder if maybe "cheating" is something I should look into. OTOH, if I did that, I would worry too much about it. That would ruin the fun.

I only cheat by looking up whether a word has already been used. I don't consider this cheating since I could theoretically know it anyway. I also observed that my expectation value tends to increase. I am still at $(\mu\, , \,\sigma)=(4.092\, , \,1.087)$ which is better than the $4.2$ in the early days. But it's getting harder since natural guesses have already been used and the words become less common (deter, manga, etc.)

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,090 3/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 091 3/6

 

[fresh_42]

Wordle 1,091 4/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,091 4/6

 

[Herman Trivilino]

Wordle 1,091 3/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,091 4/6

 

[kuruman]

Question 4: Is executing a Python code I wrote to solve the puzzle automatically online using my VBA code to facilitate the search and then posting it on PF automatically cheating?
Answer 4: No, because writing such code is just facilitating what I would have done manually anyway. The only problem is that although it exercised my brain while coding, there is no point in executing the code after it is written.

Question 5: Is executing a daily CRON job while I sleep, to run a Python code I found online to solve the puzzle automatically online and then posting it on PF automatically cheating?
Answer 5: Maybe not, but what would be the point?

I have drawn the line, for myself, at the point where the spreadsheet and its concomitant algorithms cease to be a bookkeeper and start becoming an advisor or, even worse, a decision-maker. This means that, without asking for suggestions, I get to choose the next trial word after the spreadsheet presents me with a list of possible candidates for the target solution. The next trial word, not necessarily one of the candidates, is strictly my choice.

 

[kuruman]

Wordle 1,091 3/6

 

[gmax137]

Wordle 1,091 4/6

 

[sbrothy]

Wordle 1,091 4/6*

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,091 4/6

 

[fresh_42]

Wordle 1,092 3/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 092 3/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,092 3/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,092 4/6






Weirdest thing ever. Before playing this game, I also play Wordle on another website where I impose to myself the hard mode. And today's word is the same! I also got it in the same amount of guesses:

 

[kuruman]

Wordle 1,092 3/6

 

[Herman Trivilino]

Wordle 1,092 3/6

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,092 3/6

 

[fresh_42]

All these results look rather compatible. I think we should make another test on our overall results. Please report the vector $(v_1,\ldots,v_7,v_8) = (\ldots)$ where $v_j$ represents the number of "solved in $j$ guesses" for $j<7\, , \,v_7=$ "number of failed attempts" and the check sum $v_8=$ "number of total rounds".

Mine is: $(0,37,181,278,165,48,20,729).$

 

[Orodruin]

All these results look rather compatible. I think we should make another test on our overall results. Please report the vector $(v_1,\ldots,v_7,v_8) = (\ldots)$ where $v_j$ represents the number of "solved in $j$ guesses" for $j<7\, , \,v_7=$ "number of failed attempts" and the check sum $v_8=$ "number of total rounds".

Mine is: $(0,37,181,278,165,48,20,729).$

(0, 6, 231, 338, 168, 41, 5, 789)

My distribution has evolved quite significantly towards lower numbers over time. For example, my last fail was 418 games ago and the streak before that was something like 270. Most fails came very early before I had any sort of strategy.

 

[fresh_42]

Wordle 1,093 4/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Went through my notes and untainted my scores to the best of my abilities/patience:

1, 52, 333, 359, 114, 22, 0, 881

It was fun looking over how naive I was in the beginning, and what a dreadfully slow learning curve I had.

Guessing that I didn't learn that games are a learning experience, rather than some kind of grade-school "My team beat your team! Ha! Ha!" driviality.