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[jack action]

Is the information in the spoiler available to you while you are solving it or do you get it after?

This info comes after each guess from a program I made based on a list of possible answers found on the internet.

Also why are just those two left?

The info from the first two guesses eliminates all possible answers but two.

How was the word with a "w" in second position excluded?

What "w"?

 

[martinbn]

This info comes after each guess from a program I made based on a list of possible answers found on the internet.

The info from the first two guesses eliminates all possible answers but two.

Hm, is that alowed? I thought the point was to only use your head.

What "w"?

Change the second letter of the answer to w, you get a word that fits and is not eliminated by your guesses.

 

[Orodruin]

What do you mean by "applying the sheet"?

Using the results of my Google Sheet, which assigns scores to the remaining words based on the expected entropy remaining (EER) after using it as a guess.

 

[Orodruin]

Hm, is that alowed? I thought the point was to only use your head.

Says who? People find joy in playing the game the way they enjoy it. If you enjoy playing without aids then thats fine. It obviously will not give scores comparable to people using aids.

As long as you are not ”competing” with others, whatever floats your boat goes.

Change the second letter of the answer to w, you get a word that fits and is not eliminated by your guesses.

Then it has either already been used as an answer previously or is not in the NYT list of possible solutions.

Edit: In this case, it was the solution of Wordle #262

 

[Orodruin]

Should also say: It should not be surprising that a bunch of folks on a science forum that also enjoy Wordle science the crap out of it …

 

[OmCheeto]

Change the second letter of the answer to w, you get a word that fits and is not eliminated by your guesses.

Along the word Orodruin mentioned, there were an additional 7 other words that were eliminated because they were previous solutions: STEED, SMELT, CHEST, BESET, STYLE, THESE, & STEEL.

So @jack action improved his odds of getting the solution on his 3rd guess from 1 in 10 to 1 in 2.

 

[martinbn]

Wait, one is supposed to know what's already been on and what's on the NYT list!

Also getting it with three guesses if you are using aids is not so impressive anymore.

 

[jack action]

Wait, one is supposed to know what's already been on and what's on the NYT list!

https://www.fiveforks.com/wordle/

Also getting it with three guesses if you are using aids is not so impressive anymore.

• Getting it with one is pure luck;
• Getting it in two is either a little luck or demands a lot of intuition (the Wordle word of the day is apparently selected by a human, which introduces some bias).
• Getting it with three is most likely the minimum number of guesses required without luck involved (only one word remaining). According to this site, the worldwide average is 3.97. With his new method, @Orodruin 's results from this post are at an average of 3.13.

 

[Orodruin]

Wait, one is supposed to know what's already been on and what's on the NYT list!

Also getting it with three guesses if you are using aids is not so impressive anymore.

So what? I don’t play to be impressive. I play to see how far you can push it using math and logic.

Also, it is not doing anything you cannot theoretically do with pen and paper (although it would take forever) and the list of solutions is publicly available, and I engineered and implemented the algorithm myself.

Most people will at least remember the solutions for the last week or so. Nothing prevents anyone from writing down and keeping a directory of used words.

Getting it with three is most likely the minimum number of guesses required without luck involved (only one word remaining).

I have had several 2s with only one word remaining after the seed. Of course, that is to some extent luck in the pick of seed, but then so is picking seed and second guess for getting it in three.

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,377 4/6

 

[martinbn]

So what? I don’t play to be impressive. I play to see how far you can push it using math and logic.

I am not accusuing of anything. All i am saying is that i was very impressed. Now a bit less.

 

[gmax137]

Wait, one is supposed to know what's already been on and what's on the NYT list!

Also getting it with three guesses if you are using aids is not so impressive anymore.

Hi @martinbn ! I see you are new to this thread. Most of the posters here have developed programs or spreadsheets to solve the puzzles. There are three lists out there on the internet: permissible words*, words that will be solutions (a subset of the permissible words), and words that have been "used" (previous solutions. The total number of permissible and solution words is also known (if you look).

The programs use these lists and user-specific methods to solve each puzzle.

Other posters here do not use the lists, and solve the puzzles using our wits and knowledge of english word construction. Now that the game has reached puzzle 1376 (out of some 2300 solution words), the programs are crushing it and those of us who play by our wits are quickly losing ground (mostly by wasting guesses on words already used).

But as @Orodruin points out, each player plays the way they find most enjoyable!

EDIT: Oh, and once in a while I still get it in two!

EDIT2: *if you type in a word not on the permissible list, Wordle will tell you that's not an allowed guess.

 

[OmCheeto]

Here's an interesting article, written about 3 years ago, as to why some people turn the game into a mathematical/logic puzzle.

https://news.uchicago.edu/story/why-you-cant-stop-playing-wordle-according-computational-linguist
Feb 8, 2022

 

[OmCheeto]

Now that the game has reached puzzle 1376 (out of some 2300 solution words)...

Actually, according to the NYT, there are now 3200 solution words, although the added 900 words have not yet come into regular play. But one of these days...

I've managed to collect only about 120 of them via Wordlebot's post game analysis of my daily play. Here are the last 10 added:

discovery game#	word
1331​	boson
1332​	hoody
1339​	atria
1341​	malty
1343​	clime
1365​	latke
1366​	staph
1372​	addle
1375​	whelk
1375​	loess

That might make an interesting puzzle to dissect my data to figure out the other 800. Pretty sure I'd give myself another stroke if I tried that.

 

[ChaseLess]

Wordle 1,378 5/6







#GuessTheGame #1049

#EliteGuesser
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[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 378 3/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,378 3/6

SONAR 14 left
CUTIE 1 left
VERSE

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,378 3/6

[ARISE] 5 left: CURSE NURSE PURSE REUSE VERSE
[PURSE] possible answer + filter - 1 left
[VERSE]

@Orodruin : Are we twinsies? Or did you pick a different -URSE word?

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1,378 3/6

[ARISE] 5 left: CURSE NURSE PURSE REUSE VERSE
[PURSE] possible answer + filter - 1 left
[VERSE]

@Orodruin : Are we twinsies? Or did you pick a different -URSE word?

It was between NURSE and PURSE, but I chose NURSE.

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,378 4/6

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,378 4/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,379 4/6

84 left
7 left
1 left

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 379 3/6

 

[dwarde]

Hmm looks like the front half of a cyber truck.

Wordle 1,379 3/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,379 3/6

[ARISE] 10 left: SHORT SLURP SORRY SPORT SPURN STORK STRUT SWORD SWRN TORUS
[POUTY] filter - 1 left
[SORRY]

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,379 5/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,380 4/6

143
2
1

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,380 4/6

[ARISE] 62 left
[OCTYL] filter - 3 left: QUOTA TANGO TONGA
[TANGO] most probable - 1 left
[QUOTA]

most-probable method count update (Success/Fail): 70/39 - 64.2%/35.8%

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 380 3/6

 

[sbrothy]

Not being very stable lately. I know.

Wordle 1,380 4/6*

Spoiler

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,380 5/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,380 5/6

Sorry to laugh, but your play reminds me of the article I mentioned a few days ago where they used the phrase "It’s like linguistic whack-a-mole"; mentioned more than once here at the pforum.

 

[sbrothy]

"[...] linguistic whack-a-mole".

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,380 4/6

 

[dwarde]

Sorry to laugh, but your play reminds me of the article I mentioned a few days ago where they used the phrase "It’s like linguistic whack-a-mole"; mentioned more than once here at the pforum.

That is actually a very good description of my strategy. I use as many words and letters as possible.

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,381 3/6

142
1

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,381 5/6







Not great, but it is symmetric.

 

[sbrothy]

Wow, close call. Also I effed up. Lost concentration:

Wordle 1,381 6/6*

Spoiler

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,381 4/6

[ARISE] 72 left
[LOUSY] filter - 11 left
[WIDTH] filter - 1 left
[BOOTY]

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 381 3/6

ARISE, obviously
MOUTH. Best filter based on EER. Left only 1.

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,381 4/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 382 3/6





3s two days in a row with the worst and fourth worst starts. Pretty satisfied with that

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,382 4/6

SATYR 122 left
ELOIN 7 left
BEVEL 1 left {hybrid Omcheeto/Orodruin method}

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,382 4/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,382 4/6

[ARISE] 52 left
[TONAL] filter - 4 left: BEZEL JEWEL LEVEL QUELL
[VOWEL] filter - 1 left
[JEWEL]

The filter proposed for my 3rd guess was WOOZY, which was not good enough. It took me forever to find a new one.

 

[sbrothy]

Wordle 1,382 6/6*

Spoiler

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,382 4/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 383 4/6






Bah!

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,383 4/6

ARTSY 6 left
2
1

Bah!

Sorry to laugh, but...... BAH!

Accidentally [ctrl][v'd] instead of [ctrl][shift][v'ing].
There were over two dozen words I could have played for my second guess to guarantee a win in 3.
Another reminder to never play the game immediately after waking up from a 4 hour nap.

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,383 3/6





Ha, finally some luck. I expect from now on I wont get it better than 5.