Work and energy - 90% done, just need little clarification

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving work and energy, specifically focusing on a box sliding down a frictionless incline. The problem includes calculations of potential energy, kinetic energy, and the application of Newton's laws and conservation of energy principles.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of potential energy at different points, questioning the assumptions made about height and displacement. There is discussion on using Newton's second law and the work-energy theorem to analyze the motion of the box.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the importance of considering the incline's angle when calculating forces and energy. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem, including conservation of energy and trigonometric considerations.

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Participants note the need to clarify the change in height as the box travels down the incline, as well as the implications of using different methods for calculating energy and work.

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A 2.0kg box slides down a long, frictionless incline of angle 30 degrees. It starts from rest at time t = 0 at the top of the incline at height of 20m above ground.

A) What is the potential Energy of the box relative to the ground at t = 0?
U = MGH where y0 is at the bottom of the incline
U = .39 KJ


B)Use Newton's 2nd law to find the distance the box travels between 0 and 1s and its speed at t = 1s.
F = MA
A = 4.9 m/s^2
D = 2.5m after 1s.


C)Find the potential and kinetic energy of the box at t = 1s.
KE = 1/2MV^2 = 24J

Here is one I don't get since it traveled 2.5m in 1s shouldn't it be
MGH where H = 20m - 2.5? I get U = .34KJ but the answer says .37KJ
what is wrong?


D)Find the kinetic energy and the speed of the box just as it reaches the ground at the bottom of the incline.

I was thinking of using work theorem where total work done = change in kinetic energy

The only force acting on the box is normal force and force of gravity,
since normal force is perpendicular to the displacement = cos 90 = 0 work
and force of gravity would be (m)(g)cos-120 * displacement
What would be the displacement? 20m? from the height?

Any help is appreciated.

 
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For question (B), you need to know the component of g, because its on the incline, so a=g sin\Theta.
 
I already did B, I need help partially on C and D.
 
maniacp08 said:
C)Find the potential and kinetic energy of the box at t = 1s.
KE = 1/2MV^2 = 24J

Here is one I don't get since it traveled 2.5m in 1s shouldn't it be
MGH where H = 20m - 2.5? I get U = .34KJ but the answer says .37KJ
what is wrong?

2.5m is the distance traveled along the incline. What's the change in height?

For part D: Using the total height and the angle, figure out the total distance along the incline.

(Consider using just plain old conservation of energy. Better yet, use both methods and compare!)
 
Oh thank you for pointing that minor detail out. WOW I was so delusional I completely forgot trigonometry.

The change in height in part c is
2.5*sin30 = h
h = 1.25m
U = MG(H-h) = .37KJ

Part D:
Sin 30 = 20 / D
D = 40m

Net Work= M*G*cos-120*40 = 392 = .39KJ
sqrt = 19.8 rounded = 20 m/s

Oh wow, thank you again Doc. =]
 

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