Work done by gravity on a object on an inclined plane

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by gravity on a crate being pulled up an inclined plane. The crate has a mass of 11.0 kg, is subjected to a pulling force, and experiences friction. Participants are tasked with determining the work done by Earth's gravity in joules.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of normal force, frictional force, and net force. There are inquiries about the force of gravity acting parallel to the incline and its impact on work done. Some participants express confusion over the final steps of the calculations and the interpretation of work as a scalar quantity.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to calculate the work done by gravity, with some participants suggesting the use of gravitational potential energy concepts. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, and participants are questioning the assumptions made in their calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a focus on ensuring that the calculations align with the definitions and properties of work in physics.

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Homework Statement


A 11.0 kg crate is pulled up a rough incline with an initial speed of 1.3 m/s. The pulling
force is 121.0 N parallel to the incline, which makes an angle of 12.6◦ with the horizontal.
The coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.31 and the crate is pulled a distance of 8.0 m.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.81 m/s^2 .

Homework Equations


a) Find the work done by Earth’s gravity
on the crate. Answer in units of J.

The Attempt at a Solution


Fnormal=m*g*costheta
Fnormal=105.3111778N
Fnormal* coefficient of friction=Ffriction
Ffriction=32.64646511N
Fapplied-Ffriction=Fnet
Fnet=88.35353489N
Work=N*m
Work=706.8282791N*m
-(Work*sin12.6)=W done by gravity
Work done by gravity is 154.1898119N*m
I think I did it right, but the computer marked me wrong. Can anyone explained this?
 
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hyuen9195 said:

Homework Statement


A 11.0 kg crate is pulled up a rough incline with an initial speed of 1.3 m/s. The pulling
force is 121.0 N parallel to the incline, which makes an angle of 12.6◦ with the horizontal.
The coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.31 and the crate is pulled a distance of 8.0 m.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.81 m/s^2 .

Homework Equations


a) Find the work done by Earth’s gravity
on the crate. Answer in units of J.

The Attempt at a Solution


Fnormal=m*g*costheta
Fnormal=105.3111778N
Fnormal* coefficient of friction=Ffriction
Ffriction=32.64646511N
Fapplied-Ffriction=Fnet
Fnet=88.35353489N
Work=N*m
Work=706.8282791N*m
-(Work*sin12.6)=W done by gravity
Work done by gravity is 154.1898119N*m
I think I did it right, but the computer marked me wrong. Can anyone explained this?

What did you calculate the force of gravity is that is parallel to the displacement up the plane?
 
The displacement is parallel to the plane. If that's what you are asking
 
Your last step is incorrect. I'm not sure what you're trying to do there. Can you explain your thinking?
 
a) Find the work done by Earth’s gravity on the crate. Answer in units of J.
I think you have to find the work done on the block parallel to the plane, then find the y component of the work
 
Work is Force x displacement said very simply.

So the displacement is 8 m up and parallel the plane. All you need is the force due to gravity that is also parallel to the plane, thus also parallel to the displacement. What is the force due to gravity that is parallel to the displacement?And then, is it in the same direction as the displacement (+) work, or is it in the opposite direction as the displacement, (-) work.
 
hyuen9195 said:
I think you have to find the work done on the block parallel to the plane, then find the y component of the work
Work is a scalar quantity, not a vector. It doesn't have a y-component. You'll need a different approach. Hint: The work done by gravity is the work done by only the force of gravity. You don't need to consider any of the other forces to calculate it.

When I said earlier that your steps were correct, I didn't mean to imply that they would all be necessarily useful in trying to calculate the work done by gravity, just that you didn't make any physics mistakes in deriving them.
 
a) Find the work done by Earth’s gravity on the crate.
Weight*Distance sine theta=Work done by the gravity

b) Find the work done by the force of friction on the crate.
Weight*Distance cos theta*coefficient=Work done by the force of gravity

c) Find the work done by the puller on the crate.
Applied Force *Distance=Work done by the puller on the crate

d) Find the change in kinetic energy of the crate.
Answer to c-(Answer to b+Answer to c)=The change in kinetic energy of the crate

e) Find the speed of the crate after it is pulled 8.0 m.
The square root of [((2*Answer to d/Mass)+Vi^2)]

I finally figured c out and ask my classmate for the others
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071212140953AATtl7k
 
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You should have negative answers for (a) and (b).
 
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For part d, it's Answer to c-(Answer to b+Answer to a)=The change in kinetic energy of the crate
 
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I believe that the amount of work done by gravity is equal to the potential gravitational energy. Therefor, if you find the height as it goes up a 8 meter incline, then you can also find the work using mgh (meters times gravitational acceleration times height). so I think the answer is 188 J, since sin12.5=height/8 where height is 1.745 meters, g=9.81m/s^2, and 11kg=mass. multiply them and you get the amount of joules it applied which should be 188 J. Well, then again if we consider the chnage in potential energy we can safely assume that the initial potential energy is 0. so, 188 j still holds true.
 

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