Work done by Three Dimensional Inverse Square Field

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the work done by a three-dimensional inverse-square field represented by the force function F(r) = (1/||r||^3) r on a particle moving along a specified line segment from point P(6, 2, 3) to point Q(4, 2, 4).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the force function and the line integral, expressing confusion about parameterization and the nature of the dot product in this context. Some participants question the treatment of the force and displacement vectors as collinear, suggesting a need for clarification on vector relationships. Others highlight the importance of directionality in the force vector and its dependence on position.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the force function and its application in the integral. There is a recognition of the need to express the dot product correctly and to consider the vector nature of the force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the path and the integration process, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of line integrals and vector fields, with specific attention to the parameterization of the path and the implications of the force being a function of position. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for alternative methods, such as determining if the force is conservative, but the focus remains on performing the integral as stated in the problem.

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Homework Statement



Find the work done by the three-dimensional inverse-square field

## F(r) = \frac {1} {||r||^3} r ##

on a particle that moves along the line segment from P(6, 2, 3) to Q(4,2,4)

Homework Equations



## \int_C F \bullet dr = \int_a^b f(h(t), g(t)) \sqrt {(\frac {dx} {dt})^2 + (\frac {dy} {dt})^2} = \int_a^b f(h(t),g(t)) ||\vec r'(t)|| dt##

The Attempt at a Solution



I cannot figure out where to start. I've been generally confused by line integrals the entire section. The only relationship I can see is with the 3rd equation I provided in the relevant equations where we have a magnitude ##||\vec r'(t)||##. But then what would be the function F? Is it the ##\frac {1} {||r||^3} r##? But that is a function of F(r), so I'm not sure how this changes the dynamics of the problem...? The most I could thing of would be along the lines of

## \int_C F \bullet dr = \int_a^b f(h(t),g(t)) ||\vec r'(t)|| dt##

## \int_C F \bullet dr = \int_a^b \frac {r} {||r||^3} ||\vec r'(t)|| dt ##

but now we have a function of r AND t inside this integral, but the integral is with respect to t, so could I just pull the function of r out?

## \int_C F \bullet dr = \frac {r} {||r||^3} \int_a^b ||\vec r'(t)|| dt ##

but then what is the function for r(t), I don't understand parameterization very well, and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to make some kind of parametric substitution?
 
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What did you do with the dot product ? In your first equation you pretend ##\vec F## and ##d\vec r## are collinear -- they are not !

And your ##
F(r) = \frac {1} {||r||^3} r## should be ##
\vec F(\vec r) = \frac {1} {||r||^3} \vec r## or
##
\vec F(\vec r) = \frac {1} {\vec r\cdot\vec r} \hat r##
 
BvU said:
What did you do with the dot product ? In your first equation you pretend ##\vec F## and ##d\vec r## are collinear -- they are not !

And your ##
F(r) = \frac {1} {||r||^3} r## should be ##
\vec F(\vec r) = \frac {1} {||r||^3} \vec r## or
##
\vec F(\vec r) = \frac {1} {\vec r\cdot\vec r} \hat r##

I'm not sure I follow. Since F is a function of r in this case, unlike it is usually a function re-parameterized, I'm not sure how to deal with F as a function of r, in general.
 
A force is a vector. Your inverse-square forces point away from the origin. So the force vector at position ##(x,y,z)## has a magnitude that only depends on ##|\vec r| = \sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}## but a direction that depends on each of x, y and z.

You path is from ##(6,2,3)## to ##(4,2,4)##. I could draw the path as a line segment in the plane ##y = 2##, but that doesn't help much. Your job (as I understand it *) is to find a way to express ##\vec F\cdot d\vec s## ( I use ##\vec s## for the path direction, to distinguish from the position vector ##\vec r##) and integrate.

*) there are other more indirect ways to calculate this work, but they depend on establishing that ##\vec F## is conservative and finding the corresponding potential field; my impression is that you are supposed to actually do the integral in this exercise.
 

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