Work & Energy (Question on Classical Mechanics/Slope based Problems)

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The discussion revolves around a problem in classical mechanics related to work and energy, specifically involving a car's motion on a slope. The original poster attempts to apply the Work Energy Theorem by equating the change in kinetic energy with the work done by gravitational and frictional forces.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculations involving kinetic and potential energy, questioning the direction of the car's motion and the signs used in the equations. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the change in kinetic energy and the net work done.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on calculations and clarifying the implications of signs in the equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the change in kinetic energy and its relation to work done.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be confusion regarding the direction of the car's motion, which impacts the calculations. The original poster references a solution from a book that does not align with their calculations, indicating potential discrepancies in understanding or assumptions made in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement
A car weighing 1350 kg is going down a hill. When it is 60 m vertically above the bottom of the hill, the driver sees red light of traffic crossing at the bottom. His speed at the time brakes are applied is 20 ms. How much energy will be dissipated by the brakes if wind and other frictional effects are neglected. Take g = 9.80 ms ².
Relevant Equations
Work Energy Theorem: /Delta Kinetic Energy = Work Done
I used the Change in Kinetic Energy and equated that with the Work Done. The "Work Done" part comprises of two different functions- one is work done by Gravitational Force while the other is the work done by frictional force (or the brakes).

/Delta KE (magnitude wise)= 0.5*1350* (20^2)=270,000 J=270 kJ ---(1)

Work Done by Gravity= 1350*9.8*60=793,800---(2)

Work done by Friction=W---(3)

Adding (2) & (3) & equating with (1) we get W=793800-270000=523,800 J

I used the idea here that at said height the car has both KE and PE, thus I used both in the Work Energy Theorem to calculate work done/energy expended.
 
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Is the car going uphill?
 
Careful with signs. ΔKE = net work done. Note that ΔKE is negative while the work done by gravity is positive.
 
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PeroK said:
Is the car going uphill?
No sir it is going downhill
 
warhammer said:
No sir it is going downhill
Your calculations suggested otherwise!
 
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Doc Al said:
Careful with signs. ΔKE = net work done. Note that ΔKE is negative while the work done by gravity is positive.
Thank you pointing out that mistake sir.

As ΔKE=-270,000, then the W= -270,000-793,800=−1063800.
 
Now you've got it.
 
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PeroK said:
Your calculations suggested otherwise!
Yes that was a grievous error on my part sir! 😅
I was also thrown into a catch because of the solution of the book which neither matched my value nor the sign, so yes😅
 

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