Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem question

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The problem involves a block sliding down an incline and compressing a spring, relating to the work-kinetic energy theorem. It focuses on the forces acting on the block and the energy transformations occurring during the motion.

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  • Participants discuss the correct application of forces and work in the context of the problem, questioning the use of gravitational force and the distance traveled. Some express confusion about the relationship between potential energy and kinetic energy in this scenario.

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There are multiple interpretations of how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the forces acting on the block and the calculations involved. Some participants have offered insights into the relationship between gravitational potential energy and the energy stored in the spring, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of energy conservation and force components, with some noting the importance of considering only the vertical component of the distance traveled down the incline. There is a mention of textbook examples that may not directly apply to this scenario.

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A block of mass 12.0 kg slides from rest down a frictionless 35 degress incline and is stopped by a strong spring with a force constant of 3x10^4 N/m. The block slides 3 meters from the point of release to the point where it comes to rest against the spring. When the block comes to rest, how far has the spring compressed?



Net Work= F. change in position - .5v^2


Hello guys. I have been trying to solve this problem but just cannot seem to do it correctly. I set force as mg and the distance traveled as 3 and used distance instead of velocity (as it is shown in an example in the textbook) and solved for d. It doesn't work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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The total work done,W=Force in the direction of motion*distance in the direction of the force.
[The force in the direction of motion is not simply mg]


W=The change in kinetic energy+Work done to compress the spring
 
Well, the force of gravity acts in the vertical direction. Work done by gravity on the block is the product of the distance traveled and the component of the force in the direction of the force (vertical direction only). You can also look as this as the product of the distance traveled in the vertical direction with the force of gravity.

If you understand this, then you should apprehend that you've got to resolve the vertical component of the distance...

SPOILER:
loss in grav. PE = gain in KE = gain in PE of spring
change in HEIGHT = 3*sin(35), in degrees
loss in PE = mg*3*sin(35)
= 12 * 9.81 * 3 * sin(35)
= PE of spring

Let x denote the linear dimension of compression,
PE of spring = (x^2) * 0.5*3*10^4 = 12*9.81*3*sin(35)

The rest is calculation...
 
Work associates with the force involved in the direction of motion (meaning the component of the force that allows for the motion). So the force you need to use is not mg altogether, but the component allowing the block to slide down the incline.
 

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