Working out support reaction of a frame - Statics

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The discussion focuses on calculating the horizontal reaction force at point B (Bx) for a frame structure using static equilibrium equations. Initially, the user encountered issues with Bx being canceled out during calculations. However, upon further analysis, it was determined that when taking moments about point C, Bx does not contribute to the moment, leading to the conclusion that Bx equals -57 kN. This resolution highlights the importance of understanding the role of two-force members in static analysis.

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Homework Statement



For the frame shown (see attached picture) , work out the horizontal reaction at B (ie find Bx)

Homework Equations



EQUILIBRIUM EQUATIONS:

sum of moment = 0 (CCW is positive)
sum of vertical forces = 0 (up is positive)
sum of horizontal forces = 0 (left to right is positive)

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought this was easy but for some reason everytime I equate the forces, Bx gets canceled out.

[sum of moments at A = 0];
-38(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0
By = 76 kN

[sum of moments at B = 0];
-Ay(0.3) + 38(0.6) = 0
Ay = 76 kN

[sum of moments at D = 0];
Ax(0.6) + Bx(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0 (***)

[sum of moments at C = 0];
(-38)(0.2) + Ax(0.4) + Bx(0.4) = 0

so, Ax = 19 - Bx

substitute Ax = 19 - Bx in (***) :
(19 - Bx)(0.6) + Bx(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0

but By = 76 kN so:

(19 - Bx)(0.6) + Bx(0.6) + 76(0.3) = 0

BUT Bx just cancels out??

I have no clue how to approach this question any other way
Any help/guidance would be great!
Thanks!

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I got it :)
I realized that when taking the moment about C, the force Bx does not need to included.
So Bx = -57 kN
 
Kasthuri said:

Homework Statement



For the frame shown (see attached picture) , work out the horizontal reaction at B (ie find Bx)


Homework Equations



EQUILIBRIUM EQUATIONS:

sum of moment = 0 (CCW is positive)
sum of vertical forces = 0 (up is positive)
sum of horizontal forces = 0 (left to right is positive)

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought this was easy but for some reason everytime I equate the forces, Bx gets canceled out.

[sum of moments at A = 0];
-38(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0
By = 76 kN

[sum of moments at B = 0];
-Ay(0.3) + 38(0.6) = 0
Ay = 76 kN

[sum of moments at D = 0];
Ax(0.6) + Bx(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0 (***)

[sum of moments at C = 0];
(-38)(0.2) + Ax(0.4) + Bx(0.4) = 0
NO. By produces a moment also.


Kasthuri said:
I got it :)
I realized that when taking the moment about C, the force Bx does not need to included.
So Bx = -57 kN
What you mean to say is that since member BC is a 2-force member with the force BC directed along the axis, then the force BC produces no moment about C.
 
Thanks for that PhanthomJay! :) My exam is very very soon and I'm glad you cleared that up for me.
 

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