Support reactions of a rigid, rectangular steel frame

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The discussion revolves around solving for the support reactions of a rigid, rectangular steel frame supported by rubber pads at its corners, under the influence of shear forces and moments. Participants explore the relationships between deformations of the pads and the overall behavior of the frame, considering the implications of small displacements and degrees of freedom in a two-dimensional context.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the structure appears to be statically indeterminate due to the number of unknown reaction forces exceeding the available equilibrium equations.
  • It is proposed that the deformation of the rubber pads is related to the shear force applied to the frame.
  • Participants suggest that the x-direction deformations of pads #1 and #2 must be the same, as well as for pads #3 and #4, while y-direction deformations are expected to be equal for pads 1 and 4, and for pads 2 and 3.
  • There is a discussion about the degrees of freedom of the frame, with a consensus that there are three: translations in x and y, and rotation about the z-axis.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the relationship between x and y deformations, seeking clarification on how to compute these based on the frame's displacement.
  • A suggestion is made to work in terms of the frame's displacement to derive the relationships between deformations, considering both translational and rotational displacements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of deformation relationships and degrees of freedom, but there is ongoing uncertainty regarding the specific relationships between x and y deformations, as well as how to compute them in the context of the frame's overall displacement.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the assumption of small displacements, which may limit the applicability of some proposed relationships. The discussion also highlights the need for compatibility equations to address the statically indeterminate nature of the structure.

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Homework Statement


Solve for support reactions of a rigid, rectangular steel frame sitting on rubber pads at the four corners (See attached), when a shear force and a moment is applied at some point on the frame. All the known variables are shown in black while the unknown are in red. It is a two-dimensional problem.

Homework Equations


Force balances : Sum of X = T & Sum of Y = 0
Moment balance about point 1 (upper left hand corner) : (X3+X4)W + (Y2+Y3)L - M = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


There are eight unknown reaction forces and three equilibrium equations. It seems like a statically indeterminate structure to the degree of 5 (8 unknowns - 3 equations). Could anyone offer help on how to find the appropriate compatibility equations? Thank you!
 

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The four pads will deform, and they are identical.
Each extent of deformation relates to the shear force.
What can you say about the relationships between the different extents of deformation?
 
haruspex said:
The four pads will deform, and they are identical.
Each extent of deformation relates to the shear force.
What can you say about the relationships between the different extents of deformation?
Umm, can I say that the x-direction deformation of pad #1 and that of pad #2 have to be the same given that the steel frame is rigid? Also for pads #3 and 4. As for the y-direction deformations would be equal for pads 1 and 4 (and for pads 2 and 3). Are these correct assumptions to make?
 
InYoung said:
Umm, can I say that the x-direction deformation of pad #1 and that of pad #2 have to be the same given that the steel frame is rigid? Also for pads #3 and 4. As for the y-direction deformations would be equal for pads 1 and 4 (and for pads 2 and 3). Are these correct assumptions to make?
For small deformations, yes.
You can also get a relationship between the two different x deformations and the two different y deformations. Think about how the frame as a whole can move. How many degrees of freedom?
 
haruspex said:
For small deformations, yes.
You can also get a relationship between the two different x deformations and the two different y deformations. Think about how the frame as a whole can move. How many degrees of freedom?
Three degrees of freedom: x and y translations and rotation about z-axis. In the case of translations, the two different x deformations must be identical and the two different y deformations also must be identical. In the case of rotation about z-axis, the two different x deformations must be equal and opposite (also true for the two different y deformations). Is this correct?

Thank you for the helpful pointers.
 
InYoung said:
In the case of rotation about z-axis, the two different x deformations must be equal and opposite (also true for the two different y deformations). Is this correct?
For a pure rotation, yes, but in general it will not be.
More interestingly, there is a relationship between the x deformations and the y deformations.
 
haruspex said:
For a pure rotation, yes, but in general it will not be.
More interestingly, there is a relationship between the x deformations and the y deformations.
I'm afraid I can't see what that relationship is. Could you give me some pointers? Thank you!
 
InYoung said:
I'm afraid I can't see what that relationship is. Could you give me some pointers? Thank you!
Work in terms of the displacement of the frame. If its centre is displaced (Δx, Δy), and its orientation displaced Δθ, you can compute all the deformations from those.
 
haruspex said:
Work in terms of the displacement of the frame. If its centre is displaced (Δx, Δy), and its orientation displaced Δθ, you can compute all the deformations from those.
So for a general frame displacement, if I look at the pure rotational deformations, these would be due to the differences in the shear forces (Y2 - Y1) and (X2 - X1). These deformations would be 'constrained' by the given geometry of the frame, as shown in the attached photo. (Again assuming small displacements). Is this correct?
Picture1.png
 
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InYoung said:
So for a general frame displacement, if I look at the pure rotational deformations, these would be due to the differences in the shear forces (Y2 - Y1) and (X2 - X1). These deformations would be 'constrained' by the given geometry of the frame, as shown in the attached photo. (Again assuming small displacements). Is this correct?
View attachment 203835
Yes.
Relate tan theta to the given dimensions of the frame.
You can represent the whole movement of the frame as a rotational displacement, plus an x displacement, plus a y displacement.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes.
Relate tan theta to the given dimensions of the frame.
You can represent the whole movement of the frame as a rotational displacement, plus an x displacement, plus a y displacement.
Thank you very much for your help.
 

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