Worth of doing pure math if not going into academia?

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The discussion centers on the value of pursuing a degree in pure mathematics for individuals not intending to enter academia. Participants explore the potential job prospects and career paths available to those with a bachelor's degree in pure math, as well as the implications of choosing applied mathematics or actuarial science instead.

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  • Some participants question whether a degree in pure math is worthwhile if one does not plan to pursue graduate studies, suggesting it may only serve as an interesting hobby.
  • Others argue that applied mathematics or statistics may offer better job prospects and recommend pursuing those fields instead.
  • One participant raises the potential of actuarial science as a viable math-based career, while another expresses concern about being pigeonholed by majoring in actuarial science.
  • A participant with experience in research highlights how advanced mathematics has been beneficial in various practical applications, such as algorithm creation and software fault detection.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of the actuarial exams, with some noting that even graduate students in mathematics have struggled to pass them.
  • There is mention of a variety of fields available to applied mathematicians and statisticians, including engineering and operations research.

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Participants express differing views on the value of a pure math degree versus applied math or actuarial science. There is no consensus on the best path, as opinions vary regarding job prospects and personal interests.

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Some participants emphasize the importance of computer tools in applying mathematics, while others point out the potential limitations of majoring in actuarial science if one decides to pursue a different career path later.

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Is it worth doing pure math if you're not going into academia? Would it be a bad idea to get your bachelors in pure math and stop there? Is pure math just something for people who want to go on to grad school?

I'm just not sure if there are good job prospects for someone with a bachelors in pure math, I feel like applied math or statistics heavy stuff is usually the way to go, but if I choose this route I may miss out on some interesting topics like analysis, algebra, and topology. Anyone have any insight into this?
 
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My two cents:
If you major in pure math and do not go to graduate school, it is likely to become just an interesting hobby for you. It's nice to use your degree subject in a job. If you think you may be interested in applied math and statistics, I would recommend that you pursue that.

PS. Pay attention to the computer tools that help you apply your math and statistics.
 
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My two cents:
If you major in pure math and do not go to graduate school, it is likely to become just an interesting hobby for you. It's nice to use your degree subject in a job. If you think you may be interested in applied math and statistics, I would recommend that you pursue that.

PS. Pay attention to the computer tools that help you apply your math and statistics.
What are your thoughts on actuarial science? I feel like that'd be a really good math-based career.
 
RoZ589 said:
What are your thoughts on actuarial science? I feel like that'd be a really good math-based career.

Then why not major in that from the very beginning?

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
Then why not major in that from the very beginning?

Zz.
My school actually offers that, but I've been told by many people that choosing to major in it pigeonholes you and pretty much screws you over if you end up not being an actuary. I was thinking about doing pure/ financial math instead of the actual actuary program (I also need help with choosing), but ultimately I do think I'd like to become an actuary. Here are the curriculums:

-ActSci: https://math.osu.edu/sites/math.osu.edu/files/undergrad_current-majors_requirements_actuarial.pdf
-Financial Mathematics: https://math.osu.edu/sites/math.osu.edu/files/undergrad_current-majors_requirements_financial.pdf
-Theoretical Mathematics: https://math.osu.edu/sites/math.osu.edu/files/undergrad_current-majors_requirements_theoretical.pdf
 
I am a mathematician. I have been in research for my whole working life, but never as a mathematician. Being a mathematician though, has helped me enormously in my work, such as
  • Deciphering patent claims
  • Creating algorithms for transforming robot arm paths to robot motor positions
  • Finding faults in software
Remember that one of the most important things you learn in advanced mathematics is to be skeptical to any "proof" you do not follow or do not agree with.
 
RoZ589 said:
What are your thoughts on actuarial science? I feel like that'd be a really good math-based career.
There is a long series of exams that you will need to pass to become a certified actuary (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuarial_credentialing_and_exams). The last ones are very tough. I know graduate students in math who did not pass the exams.

There is a wide range of fields that are available to applied mathematicians and statisticians, including engineering, financial, operations research.
 

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