Would anything change electric charges could be complex numbers?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the theoretical possibility of electric charges being represented as complex numbers rather than strictly positive or negative values. Participants examine the implications of such a concept on quantum electrodynamics (QED) and the nature of electrical charge.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using an Argand diagram to illustrate the concept of charges as complex numbers, proposing that this could align with observed particles and antiparticles.
  • Another participant asserts that electric charge is definitively either positive or negative, questioning the validity of exploring alternatives.
  • A later reply acknowledges the established nature of electric charge but asks for theoretical reasoning behind its binary classification, suggesting that exploring complex charges might help address unresolved issues in QED.
  • One participant states that QED does not accommodate complex charges and would require a fundamentally different theoretical framework.
  • A final post reflects a sense of humility regarding the complexity of the topic and a willingness to engage more deeply with the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the possibility of complex electric charges, with some firmly stating that charges can only be positive or negative, while others advocate for the exploration of theoretical alternatives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of current theories like QED in addressing the concept of complex charges, indicating a need for new theoretical developments if such ideas were to be considered.

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Consider an Argand diagram that shows the number line (positive and negative) and the imaginary plane of other possibilities.

As in, we have numbers that are positive and negative, and through complex numbers all of the polarities in between.

I am using this as an analogy, because we have experimentally observed particles and antiparticles; mass with positive and negative charges.

Can anybody point me in the direction of work that has theorized the possibility of electrical charges that are neither positive nor negative, but rather values in-between?

Either that or perhaps explain why it isn't possible?

Conceptually this seems to be a perfect fit with Klein's notion of dimensions wrapped up within our three dimensions.
 
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Electric charge is either positive or negative. That's the way it is.
 


mathman said:
Electric charge is either positive or negative. That's the way it is.

Thank you, but is it valid to ask why it's just the way it is?

I mean, obviously there is no point inventing possibilities for the sake of it; and I know that we have only ever observed positive or negative charges.

My question is really: if you take on the theoretical possibility of charges that are neither positive nor negative; then isn't it useful for changing the equations of QED to account for some of the features that are still problematic?

I am still trying to get my head around the physics, which is why I wanted to post to the forum to see if anybody could help out with this thinking, but I suspect that I need to make the ideas a lot clearer before that point.
 
QED does not permit complex charges, only real ones. You would need to develop an entirely different theory with different equations.
 
Thank you, I shall begin taking the requisite steps to address the deep chasms of my naivete so that I can take this on as a serious problem.
 

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