Writing a differential equation to describe cooling

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The discussion revolves around formulating a differential equation based on Newton's Law of Cooling, which describes how the temperature of an object changes in relation to its surrounding environment. The specific scenario involves an ambient temperature of 70°F and a rate constant of 0.05 min-1.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the formulation of the differential equation, with one participant attempting to express the rate of temperature change. There is discussion about the implications of the initial temperature relative to the ambient temperature and how it affects the sign in the equation.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the correct formulation of the differential equation, with some participants questioning the assumptions made regarding the temperature's behavior. Clarifications about the signs in the equation are being discussed, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Participants are considering the physical implications of the cooling law, particularly how the initial temperature influences whether the object cools or warms. There is an acknowledgment of the need to think critically about the signs used in the differential equation.

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Homework Statement



Newton's Law of Cooling states that the temperature of an object changes at a rate proportional to the difference between the temperature of the object itself and the temperature of its environment.

Suppose the ambient air temperature is 70*F and that the rate constant is 0.05min^-1.

Write a differential equation for the temperature change the object undergoes.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Just starting with DE in preparation for fall.

I just wrote:

let q be heat, t be time in minutes.

(dq/dt) = 0.05(q-70)

...

Is that really it?

And solving this differential equation, would mean finding a function, q(t), such that its derivative is equal to itself, minus 70, times 0.05, for any value of t?

Does that mean that modeling and solving differential equations is mainly a method of finding an equation that models a situation by examining the behavior of its rate of change?
 
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Yes, it is that easy, if your 'heat' variable q means temperature.
 
Actually, it is NOT quite that easy! If the initial temperature, q, is greater than the ambient temperature, 70, then the object will cool! That is, q will decrease and dq/dt is negative. If the initial temperature, q, is lower than the ambient temperature, 70, then the object will warm! That is, q will increase and dq/dt is positive.

dq/dt= 0.05(70- q) or dq/dt= -0.05(q- 70)
 
Since it introduced it as the "law of cooling" my instinct was to write a de for the rate of cooling, not heating.
 
1MileCrash said:
Since it introduced it as the "law of cooling" my instinct was to write a de for the rate of cooling, not heating.

Halls is right. I missed the sign. You have to think about the physics of the situation to get the right sign. If u is greater than 70 it should be cooling, if u is less the 70 it should be heating.
 
I understand what you are saying. I mean that I "chose" a drop in temperature to be positive. I see why this may be considered awkward.
 
1MileCrash said:
I understand what you are saying. I mean that I "chose" a drop in temperature to be positive. I see why this may be considered awkward.

It's worse than awkward. It's wrong. I was sloppy in overlooking it. Sorry.
 
Still easy. :P
 

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