Writing the Modulus of f(z) in Terms of lzl

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The discussion revolves around expressing the modulus of the function f(z) = (1+z²)/(1+z⁴) in terms of |z|. Participants explore how to manipulate the expression to analyze its behavior as |z| approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss how to express the modulus of f(z) and question how to isolate |z| in the expression. There is an exploration of substituting z with reiθ to facilitate the analysis. Some participants express confusion about the implications of the angle θ on the modulus.

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The discussion is active with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the modulus and its behavior as |z| increases. There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the relationship between f(z) and its modulus, particularly in the context of limits as |z| approaches infinity.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of complex functions and their moduli, with some expressing uncertainty about the implications of their findings. The conversation reflects a learning environment where assumptions and definitions are being questioned.

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For expressions like:

f(z) = (1+z2)/(1+z4) how does one write the modulus of that in terms of lzl?
 
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hi aaaa202! :smile:
aaaa202 said:
For expressions like:

f(z) = (1+z2)/(1+z4) how does one write the modulus of that in terms of lzl?

i don't really understand the question :redface:

how does one write eg the modulus of 1+z2 on its own in terms of lzl only ?? :confused:
 
Well I want to find lf(z)l and show that lzllf(z)l goes to 0 as lzl goes to infinity. So wouldn't I need to write the function above in terms of lzl, multiply by lzl, and show that it goes to zero?
 
in that case, write z = re :wink:
 
hmm yes okay. So in that case i would for instance get:

(1+lzl2ei2θ)/(1+lzl4ei4θ). But still that doesn't really give me the modulus for the whole expression?
 
aaaa202 said:
Well I want to … show that lzllf(z)l goes to 0 as lzl goes to infinity.
aaaa202 said:
(1+lzl2ei2θ)/(1+lzl4ei4θ).

ok, so multiply by |z| and then let |z| -> ∞ …

what difference do the θ terms make? :wink:

(btw, we normally write 2iθ rather that i2θ)
 
oh well but the expression above is f(z) not lf(z)l = mod(f(z)), and I wanted to show that lzllf(z)l -> 0 as lzl->∞..

Edit: Oh well if f(z) goes to zero then surely lf(z)l does too.. So nevermind, unless you can have lf(z)l->0 even though f(z) doesn't? Nah that wouldn't make sense right..?
 
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