You have a fine wire with a cross sectional area of 9.4×10−10 m2

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The discussion revolves around determining the material of a fine wire based on its electrical properties. The wire has a cross-sectional area of 9.4×10-10 m2 and a length of 1.1 m, connected to a 1.5 V battery, resulting in a measured current of 0.048 A. Participants are exploring the resistivity values of various materials, including aluminum, silver, and copper.

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  • Participants discuss calculating resistance using Ohm's Law and question the correct interpretation of the cross-sectional area. There are attempts to derive resistivity from the resistance and dimensions of the wire, with some confusion about the area calculation.

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There is ongoing exploration of resistance calculations and resistivity values. Some participants have provided guidance on using the correct formulas, while others express uncertainty about their calculations and the implications of the cross-sectional area.

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Participants mention the importance of accuracy in calculations, as there is a concern about potentially having only one attempt to determine the correct material. There is also a reference to differing results among peers, which adds to the confusion.

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You have a fine wire with a cross sectional area of 9.4×10−10 m2 and a length of 1.1 m. You wish to determine what it is made out of, so you connect it to a standard AA battery (1.5 V) and measure a current of 0.048 A. What material is the wire most likely made out of?
The options for the resistivities are as follows:
Iron (but iron is wrong, so discard)
Aluminum: 2.7E-8
Silver: 1.6E-8
Copper: 1.7E-8

I found the resistance by multiplying the current (.048 A) and voltage (1.5). I got .072 ohms.
I'm sort of confused about the area though. Would it be A=∏(9.4×10−10)2, or what?

Then when I solve I get .072=ρ(1.1/2.95E-9)
ρ= 1.9E-10 ohm meters.

I only have one shot of getting the answer. I'm confused, do it right, and in that case is it closest to aluminum or silver? My friend had aluminum, and we might have the same numbers. PLEASE HELP!
 
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Snape1830 said:
You have a fine wire with a cross sectional area of 9.4×10−10 m2 and a length of 1.1 m. You wish to determine what it is made out of, so you connect it to a standard AA battery (1.5 V) and measure a current of 0.048 A. What material is the wire most likely made out of?
The options for the resistivities are as follows:
Iron (but iron is wrong, so discard)
Aluminum: 2.7E-8
Silver: 1.6E-8
Copper: 1.7E-8

I found the resistance by multiplying the current (.048 A) and voltage (1.5). I got .072 ohms.
I'm sort of confused about the area though. Would it be A=∏(9.4×10−10)2, or what?

Then when I solve I get .072=ρ(1.1/2.95E-9)
ρ= 1.9E-10 ohm meters.

I only have one shot of getting the answer. I'm confused, do it right, and in that case is it closest to aluminum or silver? My friend had aluminum, and we might have the same numbers. PLEASE HELP!

Read those two bits in red and see if you are still confused.
 


PeterO said:
Read those two bits in red and see if you are still confused.

Yes, I am, because my friend did the same thing as me and it's wrong. When I used the area like that I got 6.0E-11 ohm meters. Neiter one of those options is remotely close to that number. Or do I put the area into the Area equation? Divide it by pi to get the radius and then solve?
 
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Snape1830 said:
I found the resistance by multiplying the current (.048 A) and voltage (1.5). I got .072 ohms.
Check what Ohm's Law states. Your resistance calculation is not correct.
 
gneill said:
Check what Ohm's Law states. Your resistance calculation is not correct.

I'm sorry, I meant that I divided the voltage by the current.
 


Snape1830 said:
I'm sorry, I meant that I divided the voltage by the current.
Okay, so what resistance does that give you?
 


gneill said:
Okay, so what resistance does that give you?

the resistance was .072 ohms.
 


Snape1830 said:
the resistance was .072 ohms.

Recheck that value!
 


gneill said:
Recheck that value!

31.25 ohms...oh I see what I did with the resistance. I had the equation as V/I but I still multiplied them. Silly me. But what about the area? Is that actually the number I use?
 
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When I do the calculations I get 2.67E-8 ohm meters. So it's aluminum?
 
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Snape1830 said:
31.25 ohms...oh I see what I did with the resistance. I had the equation as V/I but I still multiplied them. Silly me. But what about the area? Is that actually the number I use?

:confused: You're given the cross sectional area. What other number do you have in mind?
 
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gneill said:
:confused: You're given the cross sectional area. What other number do you have in mind?

I don't know, my friend said he did it a different way, but he got the right answer. He confused me, because I thought it was the area. I guess it is. Just wondering.
 
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Snape1830 said:
When I do the calculations I get 2.67E-8 ohm meters. So it's aluminum?

If it's closest to the corresponding value given for aluminum, then yes :smile:
 
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gneill said:
If it's closest to the corresponding value given for aluminum, then yes :smile:

Well, aluminum is Aluminum: 2.7E-8 ohm meters, so I'm going to go with yes. Thanks!
 
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Snape1830 said:
Well, aluminum is Aluminum: 2.7E-8 ohm meters, so I'm going to go with yes. Thanks!

Resistance is given by R = ρL/A using resistivity, length and cross-section area

R = V/I from Ohms law

Combining you have ρL/A = V/I

so ρ = VA/LI

since you were given the values of V, A, L and I it should just have been a matter of plugging in the values and see what you get.

Note that the actual Resistance value does not ever have to be calculated.
 

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