Young's Modulus and Hooke's Law

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The discussion revolves around the application of Young's Modulus and Hooke's Law in the context of calculating the work done in stretching a wire. The original poster presents a problem involving a wire with specific parameters and seeks to derive the work done during its elastic deformation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between force and work, questioning the appropriate equations to use. There is a discussion on the nature of the restoring force and its variation during stretching. The original poster attempts to isolate variables and equate different expressions for k, while others suggest using average force in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights into the nature of the force involved and discussing the implications of using average force versus maximum force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of work and the average force, but no consensus has been reached on the final steps of the solution.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the derivation of certain terms in the equations, particularly the factor of "2" in the context of the work done. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify these mathematical relationships without providing a definitive solution.

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Homework Statement



A wire of length L, Young's modulus Y, and cross-sectional area A is stretched
elastically by an amount ∆L. The restoring force is given by Hooke's Law as
k∆L.

b. show that the work done in stretching the wire must be: W = (YA/2L) x (∆L)^2.

The Attempt at a Solution



Not sure what work equation I use and how to put it into the equation. I tried
W = F x ∆L but my answer ended up being W = (∆L)^2 x YA x L
 
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The restoring force F is not constant over the stretched distance, it varies linearly from 0 to the maximum value of k(delta L). You can use calculus to calculate the work done, or just use the average force in your work formula. What's the value of k in terms of A, E, and L?
 
1)From the Young's Modulus equation: ∆L = (1/Y) (F/A) x L = (1/Y) (k∆L)/A x L

So I isolated for k and get, k = YA/L

2) I then isolated for k from the work equation: W = (k∆L)∆L

...which gave me k = W/(∆L^2)

So when I make the 2 equations equal to each other, I see that I'm almost there, but where does the "2" in 2L come from? That's all I am missing
 
You missed my tip: the work is not k(delta L)^2, because the force , k(delta x), is not constant. Use the average force.
 
Hmmmm...I don't know why I can't think what the average force is? Is it F = k∆L/2 ? Stumped
 
mlostrac said:
Hmmmm...I don't know why I can't think what the average force is? Is it F = k∆L/2 ? Stumped
Yes, if the force varies from 0 as it just starts to stretch, to k(deltaL) when it is stretched to deltaL, then the average force is the (sum of the min force plus maxforce)/2. Or you can use the calculus for the work done, the integral of F(dx), where F=kx.
 
Awesome, it all worked out and I got the right answer. Thank you so much!
 

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