Young's Modulus: Vibrations in a rod

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to Young's Modulus and the vibrations of a metal rod under applied forces. The original poster seeks clarification on the implications of a static deflection and the subsequent vibrations when a mass is attached to the rod.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the applied force, static deflection, and the resulting vibrations of the rod. Some participants question the source of energy for the vibrations and the mechanics behind the system's behavior after the force is removed.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the nature of energy storage and release in the rod. Some guidance has been offered regarding the concept of the rod acting like a spring, but there is no explicit consensus on the understanding of the vibrations or the reasoning behind the ratio of frequencies.

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The problem involves assumptions about the elastic behavior of the rod and the conditions under which the vibrations occur. There is also a mention of the mass being significantly greater than that of the rod, which may influence the dynamics discussed.

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From A.P. French, question 3-10.
I'm having trouble decoding part b.

/Do not solve/ please help me find what it is asking.

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A metal rod, 0.5m long, has a rectangular cross section of 2mm2.

(a) This question provided me with information to calculate young's modulus for the metal Y = 5.9*1011 N/m2

(b) The rod is firmly clamped at the bottom, and at the top a force F is applied in the y direction [perpendicular to side a, parallel to side b]. The result is a static deflection, y, given by:

y = \frac{4L^3}{Yab^3}F

If the force is removed and a mass m, which is much greater than the mass of the rod, is attached to the top end of the rod, what is the ratio of the frequencies of vibration in the y and x directions (i.e., parallel to edges of length b and a)?
 
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SOLUTION: b/a.

I don't understand why that is.

I don't understand why there is vibration at all - where is this energy coming from?

What is happening here?
 
When the rod is clamped at one end and then a force is used to deflect the other end, it takes a certain amount of work or energy to cause this deflection. Once the force is released, and assuming the rod has only undergone an elastic deflection, then the rod will try to recover its undeflected shape. When deflected, the rod acts as a spring, storing the energy which caused it to deflect. When the end of the rod is released, so is the stored energy. Because there is no restraint on the motion of the free end of the rod, after release of the free end, the rod will vibrate about its original undeflected position until the energy stored within the rod dissipates.

Haven't you ever seen a tuning fork?
 
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Ahh - poor interpretation.

What I understood was:

> An applied force reveals these properties. Now consider an idle system of these properties with a mass on top.

What it's clearly saying is:

> An applied force reveals these properties. Now put a mass on top and apply the force again.
 
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