Bending property solid metal pipe vs hollow metal pipe

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The bending properties of solid versus hollow metal pipes of the same diameter are influenced by their area moment of inertia, with hollow pipes exhibiting greater deflection under load due to their lower moment. When considering fatigue under repeated loading conditions, hollow pipes experience higher local stress and strain, potentially leading to reduced fatigue life compared to solid pipes. The specific outcomes depend on various factors, including the applied load, frequency, and any static offset loads. Additional information is necessary to provide a conclusive analysis regarding failure under dynamic conditions. Overall, solid pipes generally perform better in terms of bending resistance and fatigue life under similar conditions.
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i wanted the techinical information.
bending property of solid pipe and hollow pipe with same diameter.
which will bend more and why ?
i wanted the technical answer please help me out :smile:
 
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If you look at a beam that is cantilevered and a force applied to the free end, the deflection of the beam at the end is calculated as:

\delta = \frac{PL^3}{3EI} where

\delta is the deflection
P is the applied load
L is the length from the fixed end
I is the area moment of inertia
E is the modulus of elasticity

So for two beams (one hollow and one not) of equal length, identical material and the same applied load, the only variable is the area moment of inertia. Since the deflection is inversely proportional to the area moment of inertia, the beam with the larger moment will have the lower deflection.

The tube will a lower area moment of inertia so it will deflect more.

What loading conditions and constraints were you thinking of?
 
which rod (hollow or solid) will break at a apllied load (pressure) at a repeated frequency 1 min holding time and 10 mins withdrawal time ?
 
insatcool said:
which rod (hollow or solid) will break at a apllied load (pressure) at a repeated frequency 1 min holding time and 10 mins withdrawal time ?
This is not a static deflection problem any more. It is now a fatigue issue. It depends completely on the load applied and if there is a static offset load (preload). Many situations have an infinite number of cycles that can be applied and not fail. I can't answer this question without a lot more information.
 
Adding what Fred mentioned, the hollow tube (presumably of the same material and similar microstructure (which infers similar thermomechancial processing)) has less cross-sectional area, which means for a given load will have higher local stress, which implies more strain.

For fatique, for a given delection, the internal stresses will be greater in the hollow tube - which will generally reduce fatigue life for a given load/deflection.

And as Fred indicated, more information is needed to give a more definitive statement.
 
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