Solving Absolute Value Inequalities: A Deeper Understanding

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The discussion focuses on solving absolute value inequalities, specifically the inequality |x-3| > -2 + |2x + 8|. The original method involved setting up multiple equations, but it was noted that this approach scales poorly with more absolute value terms. A more efficient strategy involves identifying critical x values to create ranges, allowing for simplification of the absolute values within those ranges. The solution set can then be determined by solving fewer equations and checking the validity of the results within the defined intervals. This method ultimately leads to a clearer understanding and avoids unnecessary testing of points.
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I was hoping someone could give a little more insight, or perhaps enlighten me to a better way of approaching solving these seemingly simple Algebra 2 inequalities.

I did some google searching but I was not able to find the answers I seek.

The problem came up when a friend of mine had an equation that looked like this:

|x-3| > -2 + |2x + 8|

Question 1: What is the generally accepted best way to solve this inequality.

My method of solving involved setting up 4 equalities:

1) x-3 = -2 + 2x + 8
2) -(x-3) = -2 + 2x + 8
3) x-3 = -2 - (2x + 8)
4) -(x-3) = -2 - (2x + 8)

These yielded the following values for x:

1) x= -9
2) x = -1
3) x = -7/3
4) x = -13

With each of these x values I then went back and plugged into the original inequality. My goal was to check for equality.

Only 2) and 4) resulted in equality so I threw the other answers out.

Once I had these two solutions I tested the points 0, -5, and -20 in the original inequality. And since -5 was the only value that yielded a true statement, I declared the solution:

(technically I had checked -7/3 and -9, checking -5 was unnecessary I realize now)

-13 < x < -1

Question 2: Can someone give me more information on why there are extraneous solutions?

As I understand things, when you have:

|x| = A

You need to solve x = A and x = -A

When you have:

|x| = |y|

You need to solve x = y, x = -y, -x = y and -x = -y, but because x = -y, -x = y are the same equation and x = y, -x = -y are the same equation you only need to solve two equations.

When you have:

|x| = A + |y|

You need to solve x = A + y, x = A - y, -x = A + y, and -x = A - y, since these are all different, you need to solve all four. Essentially the prior case (|x| = |y|) is a special case of this, just two of the equations you need to solve happen to be the same.

Question 3: Is there a more rigorous way of handling these equations? Should I be using |x| = Sqrt(x^2) here?

Thank you in advance.
 
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Your method does not scale well. For n abs value terms you would have 2n cases. Better to list out the critical x values (-4 and 3 in your first example), then consider the n+1 ranges these generate: <-4, -4 to 3, >3.
 
haruspex said:
Your method does not scale well. For n abs value terms you would have 2n cases. Better to list out the critical x values (-4 and 3 in your first example), then consider the n+1 ranges these generate: <-4, -4 to 3, >3.

Thank you very much for your response.

I do not fully understand.

I understand that my method will result in 2n cases. That is clear to me.

I understand how to find what you call critical x values for each set of absolute value quantities. This is also clear.

I do not understand what it means to "consider" these ranges. How would I go about solving once I have the ranges: <-4, -4 to 3, >3?

Thanks.
 
Diffy said:
I do not understand what it means to "consider" these ranges. How would I go about solving once I have the ranges: <-4, -4 to 3, >3?
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Within each of those ranges, every abs value term has a known simplification. For x<-4, |x-3|=3-x and |2x+8|=-2x-8. For -4<x<3, |x-3|=3-x and |2x+8|=2x+8, etc.
 
Thank you.

Please allow me to continue for my own benefit so that I may understand completely.

For x < -4 we have |x-3|=3-x and |2x+8|=-2x-8

For -4 < x < 3 we have |x-3|=3-x and |2x+8|= 2x+8

For x > 3 we have |x-3|= x - 3 and |2x+8|= 2x+8

Thus I must solve 3 equations, with constraints, as you predicted n + 1 = 3 in this case.For x < -4 since |x-3|=3-x and |2x+8|=-2x-8
We must solve 3-x = -2 -2x-8. This yields x = -13 which is a valid answer since we require x < -4.

For -4 < x < 3 since|x-3|=3-x and |2x+8|= 2x+8
We must solve 3-x = -2 + 2x+8

This yields x = -1 which is a valid answer since we require -4 < x < 3.

For x > 3 since |x-3|= x - 3 and |2x+8|= 2x+8
We must solve x - 3 = -2 + 2x + 8

This yields x = -9. Which is NOT valid because we require x > 3.

Then by solving just 3 equations I can arrive at the critical values -1 and -13. I can then do my tests between -1 and -13 and beyond -1 and -13 to determine where the original inequality is true and where it is false.

Is this correct?

Thank you.
 
Diffy said:
For x < -4 since |x-3|=3-x and |2x+8|=-2x-8
We must solve 3-x = -2 -2x-8. This yields x = -13 which is a valid answer since we require x < -4.
No, for this range (actually, x<=-4) you have 3-x > -2 + (-2x-8), i.e x>-13. So (-13,-4] is an entire interval of valid solutions. Proceed similarly with the other two cases.
 
haruspex said:
No, for this range (actually, x<=-4) you have 3-x > -2 + (-2x-8), i.e x>-13. So (-13,-4] is an entire interval of valid solutions. Proceed similarly with the other two cases.

Ah yes. It took me a while to understand what you are saying here. Very clever.

So for
For -4 <= x <= 3 we have 3-x > -2 + 2x+8 ie x < -1, So [-4, -1) is valid.

And for x>= 3 we have x - 3 > -2 + 2x + 8 ie x < -9 So no solutions added in this case.

Thus (-13, -1) is our solution set. This way I don't have to do all that business with testing points in between...

Thank you haruspex for your help.
 

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