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| Feb26-12, 06:09 AM | #1 |
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Help me understand this:
My teacher often writes for a scalar function F:
dF = [itex]\nabla[/itex]F [itex]\bullet[/itex] dr Why is it you are allowed to do this. Shouldn't you use the pythagorean theorem? |
| Feb26-12, 08:13 AM | #2 |
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![]() It's an identity that follows from the definition of the derivative of a function of multiple coordinates. Consider that the total derivative is: $$dF = {\partial F \over \partial x}dx + {\partial F \over \partial y}dy + {\partial F \over \partial z}dz$$ And the right hand side is: $$\nabla F \cdot d\mathbf{r} = \begin{bmatrix}{\partial F \over \partial x}\\{\partial F \over \partial y}\\{\partial F \over \partial x}\end{bmatrix} \cdot \begin{bmatrix}dx\\dy\\dz\end{bmatrix} = {\partial F \over \partial x}dx + {\partial F \over \partial y}dy + {\partial F \over \partial z}dz$$ I guess you could say that he pythagorean theorem is not involved because any application of it cancels left and right in the identity. |
| Feb27-12, 04:20 AM | #3 |
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hmm yes I kinda got this already, but I'm just unsure how to interpret the term:
dF = dF/dx * dx + dF/dy * dy + dF/dz *dz What does this infinitesimal bit of represent? Surely its not a vector, since the result is a scalar. Surely it can't be an infinitesimal part of its length either, since dF =√(dFx^2 + dFy^2 + dFz^2) So what does it mean this dF? |
| Feb27-12, 09:44 AM | #4 |
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Help me understand this:dF is the change in F(x,y,z) if you change the coordinates by (dx,dy,dz) to F(x+dx,y+dy,z+dz). You can write this as: dF=F(x+dx,y+dy,z+dz)-F(x,y,z). This is the (scalar) difference in F between 2 points in space. As such dF =√(dFx^2 + dFy^2 + dFz^2) does not apply, since it is not a vector. |
| Feb27-12, 11:41 AM | #5 |
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Okay yes, but I just don't find the idea of adding up the changes of the function in respectfully the x-, y- and x- direction very interesting.
So far I've seen it used, but rather length has been used (or maybe I'm wrong) - for instance in continuity considerations you require that f(x,y) is well defined inside the cirfumference of an infinitesimal circle. |
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