PCl5 / SOCl2 and carboxylic acids

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The discussion centers on the reactions of carboxylic acids with phosphorus pentachloride (PCl5) and thionyl chloride (SOCl2). It highlights that while the reaction with SOCl2 proceeds to completion in an open system because the gaseous products (SO2 and HCl) can escape, the reaction with PCl5 does not reach completion despite HCl being a gas. This is attributed to the presence of phosphoryl chloride, which is a liquid and does not escape, thus affecting the equilibrium. Additionally, the use of a base, such as triethylamine, and conducting the reactions under Schlenk conditions are mentioned as common practices in these reactions.
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In my chemistry notes it gives the equations,

##R-COOH + PCl_5 \rightleftharpoons R-COCl + POCl_3 + HCl##

##R-COOH + SOCl_2 \rightleftharpoons R-COCl + SO_2 + HCl##

It then says that in an open system the reaction with thionyl chloride will go to completion as all the products except the acyl chloride can escape as they are gases, so the equilibrium keeps moving right. However why does the reaction with PCl5 not go to completion since the HCl will escape as its a gas?
 
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trollcast said:
In my chemistry notes it gives the equations,

##R-COOH + PCl_5 \rightleftharpoons R-COCl + POCl_3 + HCl##

##R-COOH + SOCl_2 \rightleftharpoons R-COCl + SO_2 + HCl##

It then says that in an open system the reaction with thionyl chloride will go to completion as all the products except the acyl chloride can escape as they are gases, so the equilibrium keeps moving right. However why does the reaction with PCl5 not go to completion since the HCl will escape as its a gas?

Phosphoryl chloride is a liquid, ergo...

In reality we as a base, usually triethylamine, to these reactions and perform them under schlenk condition.
 
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