Estimate Min. Electron Energy in Hydrogen Atom w/ Uncertainty Principle

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The discussion revolves around estimating the minimum energy of an electron in a hydrogen atom using the uncertainty principle. The radius of the hydrogen atom is provided as 5.3 x 10^(-11) m, and participants are exploring the relationship between kinetic energy and momentum in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster questions whether to use the kinetic energy formula Ek = (p^2)/2m or Ek = pc for their calculations. Other participants discuss the uncertainty principle and its application to find the uncertainty in velocity and subsequently the minimum energy.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some suggesting different methods to calculate kinetic energy. There is a recognition that multiple approaches can lead to the same result, but no consensus has been reached on the preferred method.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the uncertainty principle and the known parameters of the hydrogen atom, including the mass of the electron. The discussion does not resolve the calculations but explores the implications of different formulas.

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a hydorgen atom is 5.3*10^(-11) m in radius. use the uncertainty principle to estimate the minimum energy an electron acan have in this atom.

my problem:
to calculate the kinetic energy, do you use Ek=(p^2)/2m or Ek=pc?
 
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The uncertainty principal is: /\x/\p = h/2*pi.

/\x is the radius you have stated.

/\p is the uncertainty of momentum. p = mv, mass is known, so /\p = m/\v.

So: /\v = h/(2 * pi * m * /\x)

where m is the mass of the electron.

Find /\v, then you can find the minimum energy:

energy = 0.5 * m * /\v^2.
 
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is that the same as just calculating the kinetic energy=p^2/2m?
 
Yep, that's another way.
 
ok~ that's cool!
 

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