ODE with Superposition

In summary: If I'm not mistaken, it will become 3* e^{-1.3t} - 4* e^{-1.3t}and the final answer is 3 * e^{-1.3t}In summary, the solution for x(t) if x(0)=3 is 3e^(-1.3t). The general solution of the given differential equation is Ce^(-1.3t), which can be found by integrating the related problem dy/dx = -1.3y and applying the given boundary condition. The solutions x1(t) and x2(t) can be recognized as special cases of the general solution.
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shinnsohai
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Homework Statement


Given
[itex]\frac{dx}{dt}[/itex] = -1.3x
[itex]x_{1}[/itex](t)=e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]
[itex]x_{2}[/itex](t)=4e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]

Compute a solution for x(t) if x(0)=3

Homework Equations


Superposition Principle
and some ODE related
Anyhow I refer to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ECd0Jn7y68

The Attempt at a Solution


First Attempt
x(t)=[itex]\alpha[/itex] (e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]) + [itex]\beta[/itex] (4e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex])
[itex]\frac{dx}{dt}[/itex]= (-1.3) * ([itex]\alpha[/itex] [itex]x_{1}[/itex] + [itex]\beta[/itex] [itex]x_{2}[/itex] )

Then after this step, I've no idea how to continue, I am stuck here, what Should I do with the given initial condition? x(0)=3

I've done some google search, some ODE with Initial condition provided

Perhaps Related Solution:
[itex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/itex] = -1.3x
[itex]\int[/itex] 1 dy = [itex]\int[/itex] -1.3x dx

To get the Constant, I've plugged in the given initial condition x(0)=3
y = [itex]\frac{-1.3x^{2}}{2}[/itex] + c
c = -5.58

Re-arrange the eqn

y= [itex]\frac{-1.3x^{2}}{2}[/itex] - 5.58
after getting this?
how do I proceed ?
Imma so confusee!(Sorry Mods, It's quite sometime I dint visit the forum, Making such messy mistake on the previous post)
Anyway
Here's the (Hand written working LINK)
http://imgur.com/VmfPJwr
http://imgur.com/J5k5YeO
http://imgur.com/VmfPJwr
I'm not that familiar with the Latex Code :tongue:
 
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shinnsohai said:

Homework Statement


Given
[itex]\frac{dx}{dt}[/itex] = -1.3x
[itex]x_{1}[/itex](t)=e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]
[itex]x_{2}[/itex](t)=4e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]

Compute a solution for x(t) if x(0)=3
You're making this much more difficult than it actually is. Do you know what the general solution of your differential equation is? Assuming that you do, just use your initial condition to find the solution for which x(0) = 3.
shinnsohai said:

Homework Equations


Superposition Principle
and some ODE related
Anyhow I refer to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ECd0Jn7y68


The Attempt at a Solution


First Attempt
x(t)=[itex]\alpha[/itex] (e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]) + [itex]\beta[/itex] (4e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex])
[itex]\frac{dx}{dt}[/itex]= (-1.3) * ([itex]\alpha[/itex] [itex]x_{1}[/itex] + [itex]\beta[/itex] [itex]x_{2}[/itex] )

Then after this step, I've no idea how to continue, I am stuck here, what Should I do with the given initial condition? x(0)=3

I've done some google search, some ODE with Initial condition provided

Perhaps Related Solution:
[itex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/itex] = -1.3x
[itex]\int[/itex] 1 dy = [itex]\int[/itex] -1.3x dx
This is not at all related to your problem. A related problem would be dy/dx = -1.3y.
shinnsohai said:
To get the Constant, I've plugged in the given initial condition x(0)=3
y = [itex]\frac{-1.3x^{2}}{2}[/itex] + c
c = -5.58

Re-arrange the eqn

y= [itex]\frac{-1.3x^{2}}{2}[/itex] - 5.58
after getting this?
how do I proceed ?
Imma so confusee!


(Sorry Mods, It's quite sometime I dint visit the forum, Making such messy mistake on the previous post)
Anyway
Here's the (Hand written working LINK)
http://imgur.com/VmfPJwr
http://imgur.com/J5k5YeO
http://imgur.com/VmfPJwr
I'm not that familiar with the Latex Code :tongue:
 
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Mark44 said:
You're making this much more difficult than it actually is. Do you know what the general solution of your differential equation is? Assuming that you do, just use your initial condition to find the solution for which x(0) = 3.
This is not at all related to your problem. A related problem would be dy/dx = -1.3y.

Thanks Mark for replying

I've messed up the thing eventually

Based on the related problem dy/dx = -1.3 y
Integrate it
and
apply the boundary condition x(0)=3

[itex]\int[/itex] [itex]\frac{dy(x)}{dx}/{y(x)}[/itex] = [itex]\int[/itex] -1.3 dx

log(y(x)) = -1.3x +c

y(x) = [itex]e^{-1.3x+c}[/itex]
Let C = [itex]e^{C1}[/itex]

y(x) =C * [itex]e^{-1.3x}[/itex]

Plug in the Given boundary
x(0)=3

y(x) =C * [itex]e^{-1.3x}[/itex]
3 = C * [itex]e^{0}[/itex]
C=3

Re-arrange

y(x) =3* [itex]e^{-1.3x}[/itex]

So until this step
what should I do with the

[itex]x_{1}[/itex](t)=e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]
[itex]x_{2}[/itex](t)=4e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]
 
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Yes, that's it, although you should write your answer as x(t) = 3e-1.3t. In your diff. equation, x was the dependent variable and t was the independent variable.

I believe that what they wanted you to do with x1(t) and x2(t) was to recognize that all solutions are of the form Ce-1.3t.
 
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shinnsohai said:
y(x) =3* [itex]e^{-1.3x}[/itex]

So until this step
what should I do with the

[itex]x_{1}[/itex](t)=e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]
[itex]x_{2}[/itex](t)=4e[itex]^{-1.3t}[/itex]

You need to decide whether your independent variable is ##t## or ##x##. What happens if you calculate ##x_2 - x_1##?
 
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Mark44 said:
Yes, that's it, although you should write your answer as x(t) = 3e-1.3t. In your diff. equation, x was the dependent variable and t was the independent variable.

I believe that what they wanted you to do with x1(t) and x2(t) was to recognize that all solutions are of the form Ce-1.3t.


Oh ya!
I used to use dy and dx
and now i get messed up again!:tongue:
 
  • #7
LCKurtz said:
You need to decide whether your independent variable is ##t## or ##x##. What happens if you calculate ##x_2 - x_1##?

Thanks for remind that!
 

1. What is an ODE with Superposition?

An ODE (Ordinary Differential Equation) with Superposition refers to a type of differential equation where the solution can be obtained by adding together the solutions of simpler differential equations. This is useful in solving complex problems where the differential equation cannot be solved directly.

2. How does superposition work in ODEs?

Superposition works by breaking down a complex ODE into simpler ODEs that can be solved individually. The solution to the complex ODE is then obtained by adding together the solutions of the simpler ODEs. This is possible because of the linearity property of ODEs.

3. What is the significance of superposition in ODEs?

Superposition is significant in ODEs because it allows us to solve complex problems that would otherwise be difficult or impossible to solve. It also provides a systematic and efficient approach to solving linear ODEs.

4. Can superposition be applied to all types of ODEs?

No, superposition can only be applied to linear ODEs. Non-linear ODEs do not have the linearity property and therefore cannot be solved using superposition.

5. Are there any limitations to using superposition in ODEs?

Yes, there are limitations to using superposition in ODEs. It can only be applied to linear ODEs, and even then, it may not always provide an exact solution. In some cases, superposition may only provide an approximate solution or may not work at all.

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