Lorentz model and dielectric

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of dielectric constant in the Lorentz model and whether the magnetic field has any effect on it. It is concluded that the magnetic field is not considered due to its weakness in EM wave situations, but it may still have some impact in high energy particle fields. Additionally, the conversation mentions that while the change of magnetic field may be comparable to the electric field, it is usually negligible in visible optics due to the size of atoms and molecules.
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bahaar
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I read in text for calculation dielectric constant in Lorentz model, we only regard electric field that coupled with each oscillator. So the magnetic field of input wave has no effect in calculation of dielectric constant in this model?
 
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Hi bahaar, the reason we don't consider magnetic field is because it is too weak in EM wave situation. E/B=c which is speed of light. Lorentz force qE is much greater than qvB, because v is not high enough in room temperature. But in high energy particle field, magnetic field does matter.

-Zephyron
 
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That's not the only reason. While B itself may be weak, the change of B with t [itex]\partial B/\partial t=\rot E [/itex] may be comparable to the electric field itself. However in the case of visible optics, the wavelength over which the electric field changes is much larger than the size of atoms or molecules, so that this effect is usually negligible, too. However it explains e.g. phenomena like optical activity.
 
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Thanks both of you.:smile:
 

1. What is the Lorentz model and how does it relate to dielectric materials?

The Lorentz model is a theoretical model used to describe the behavior of dielectric materials, specifically their response to an external electric field. It is based on the idea that the electrons in a dielectric material are bound to their respective atoms and can only move a small distance before being pulled back. This model helps to explain the polarization and other properties of dielectric materials.

2. How does the Lorentz model differ from other models used to describe dielectric materials?

The Lorentz model differs from other models in that it takes into account the individual responses of each bound electron in a material, rather than treating the material as a whole. This allows for a more detailed and accurate description of the behavior of dielectric materials.

3. What is the significance of the Lorentz model in understanding the properties of dielectric materials?

The Lorentz model is significant because it helps to explain several key properties of dielectric materials, such as their ability to store electric charge and their response to an external electric field. It also provides a framework for understanding the relationship between the properties of a material and its molecular structure.

4. Can the Lorentz model be applied to all types of dielectric materials?

While the Lorentz model is a valuable tool for understanding the behavior of many dielectric materials, it may not be applicable to all types of materials. For example, materials with highly disordered molecular structures may require a different model to accurately describe their properties.

5. How does the Lorentz model account for temperature and frequency effects in dielectric materials?

The Lorentz model can be modified to account for temperature and frequency effects by including additional parameters that describe how the behavior of the electrons in a material changes with temperature and frequency. These modifications can help to explain how dielectric materials behave under different conditions and can aid in the design of new materials with specific properties.

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