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Fences around each state?edpell said:How would you enforce the 10th amendment?
Fences around each state?edpell said:How would you enforce the 10th amendment?
mgb_phys said:Fences around each state?
Galteeth said:Ok, obviously we come from very different ideological viewpoints. I am curious, what do you feel would be the advantage of this hyper-militarization of the US?
mgb_phys said:Yes but there are miles of undefended border.
Tree huggers from Oregon could sneak into Northern California and wipeout the local tree-hugging population by taking anti-logging protesting sites from native Northern Californians.
MotoH said:To put it in simplest terms, Wouldn't you rather have the neccesary weapons to protect the United States in the event of an act of aggression? I for one would rather have something and not need it, than need something and not have it. Kind of like carrying a pistol. You never hope to use it on someone, but it is there if the deed is called upon.
And the mandatory military service I believe is a great idea because its really the least you can do for the country you live in. If I were in power I would take the same concept Israel has, although they are a mandatory 3 years I believe.
edpell said:How would you enforce the 10th amendment?
mgb_phys said:Yes but there are miles of undefended border.
Tree huggers from Oregon could sneak into Northern California and wipeout the local tree-hugging population by taking anti-logging protesting sites from native Northern Californians.
Beltran said he instructs his agents to use discretion and "common sense." It goes like this: "If a kid [on the Canada side] throws a Frisbee over here, he can come and get it. But if he got the Frisbee and kept walking down to the Arby's to get a soda, we're going to stop you."
mgb_phys said:And protect the US from Canadian frisbees
http://proinmigrant.blogspot.com/2008/08/border-fence-between-canada-and-us.html
Char. Limit said:Not with nukes, I'll tell you that much right now.
edpell said:The only sovereign entities are those that have nuclear weapons and delivery systems. All others entities are clients to a patron that does have nukes. So if the fifty states wish to be sovereign they must have nukes.
edpell said:Two points.
Forced service is slavery which is prohibited under the Constitution.
The federal government borrows more than 50% of every dollar it spends. So how do you propose increasing spending? Will the Chinese work harder in order to buy more US debt paper?
Char. Limit;2514592I'm also 17[/QUOTE said:Ah, I remember being 17 and knowing everything.
Char. Limit said:Please. The generals in Washington will say "look at all these able-bodied troops we're wasting! Let's send them off to war to die!"
I think you might want to review how wars are declared under the US Constitution. You'll discover that "generals in Washington" aren't able to declare war on their own. Also, the idea that they want the men and women under their command to die is rather offensive - do you have any evidence for this claim of yours? Or were you just makin' stuff up?
Ivan Seeking said:All vehicles with an empty GVW over 4000 Lbs [would include most SUVs] are treated as tractor-trailers - required to drive in the right-most lanes, never to exceed 55 mph, and subject to stiffer penalties for moving violations.
Char. Limit said:Please. The generals in Washington will say "look at all these able-bodied troops we're wasting! Let's send them off to war to die!"
Vanadium 50 said:I think you might want to review how wars are declared under the US Constitution. You'll discover that "generals in Washington" aren't able to declare war on their own. Also, the idea that they want the men and women under their command to die is rather offensive - do you have any evidence for this claim of yours? Or were you just makin' stuff up?
Vanadium 50 said:Ah, I remember being 17 and knowing everything.
dotman said:Come on now, you don't have to patronize him.
dotman said:While he certainly phrased it poorly, the intent of his post is not without merit. The US armed services is stretched right now, with guard units routinely being activated for multiple tours, and regular service men and women having their tours lengthened, etc.
There is absolutely no question that if there were mandatory service requirements, many of those young people would be sent to foreign theaters. A sizeable portion would see combat.
In today's day and age, this also would beg the question-- would women also be required to serve? How would that go over, do you think?
Come on now, you don't have to patronize him.
Char. Limit said:For the last time...
I'm... not... a... socialist.
I'm also 17, so I'd be the one affected by the law, unlike most of the people on this board.
Plus, Europeans aren't fighting two wars and being short on troops and all.
Also, it's been shown that morale is higher in an all-volunteer army.
MotoH said:Forced service slavery? Maybe for those who want to "steal" from the US. If you honestly can't give four years of your life (which isn't active duty mind you) to the United States, how do you deserve to live here?
Galteeth said:I would say on the other hand, what gives others the right to steal four years of my life, and why should murderers be allowed to live here? Morality's funny like that. My "right" is basically you're "wrong" and vice-versa.
turbo-1 said:In Maine, we had a law allowing same-sex marriages. It lasted only as long as it took for the evangelicals and the Catholic church to scrape up millions of dollars for a scare-tactic ad campaign to convince gullible idiots to shoot it down in a referendum. The ads constantly drummed on how dangerous gay marriage would be to children and how gay marriage would be "taught" in our public schools. Those lies had no basis in fact and there was not a shred of evidence in support of them, but it worked.
I would like to see that referendum overturned, but there are quite a few people here that either fear gays or hate them and wish to deny them legal rights that the rest of us enjoy, like rights of inheritance, medical visitation, and shared responsibility for legal decisions between couples.
SticksandStones said:The first things that come to mind:
-Lower the drinking age to 18.
SticksandStones said:-Legalize marijuana.
SticksandStones said:-Tax gasoline.
SticksandStones said:-End both of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
SticksandStones said:-Begin wide-spread reform to stop global warming, including heavy taxes on CO2 emissions by factories.
SticksandStones said:-Tax goods imported from countries with little/no worker rights in such a way that it would be cheaper to produce them in the US or at least countries that respect their workers.
SticksandStones said:-Make lobbying by corporations equivalent to treason. Congress should answer only to the people they are elected to represent, not big-business.
SticksandStones said:-Criminalize discrimination based on sexual orientation.
SticksandStones said:-Dispose of 50% or more of the United State's atomic-weapon arsenal.
SticksandStones said:-Pass a law requiring the President to renew any authorization for military action every two years. Any president that fails to do so, even if they are off by as little as a day, will be immediately impeached, removed from office, and charged with treason.
SticksandStones said:-Cap military funding in half, and appropriate half of that extra money to education.
SticksandStones said:-Require the President to give weekly, televised updates to the people he/she serves.
SticksandStones said:-Repeal the No Child Left Behind Act.
SticksandStones said:-Declassify any and all information in the government that isn't an immediate security risk.
SticksandStones said:-End the "War on Drugs" in general. It's a waste of money that could be spent on giving children an education.
SticksandStones said:-Provide funding to achieve a >75% level of alternative-energy usage in the US by 2020 (or a reasonable date).
Char. Limit said:Gay marriage should be legal. They are human, after all, unless someone would like to dispute that.
Nuclear power is the most viable option...
Char. Limit said:Watch out, Jamin, you're getting closer to an institution truly morally wrong... child-adult marriage.
However, I can't remember why they banned adult polygamy. Someone remind me?
A serious question that last one.
People were enjoying it?Char. Limit said:However, I can't remember why they banned adult polygamy. Someone remind me?