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I've been doing some problems relative to car on an incline (and also boxes on an incline).
Let's suppose we are given a problem with kinetic or static coefficient.
I'm confusing when should or should not apply kinetic friction to a car, for example in some problems if brakes are applied then friction is involved (as if it were a box), however if brakes are not applied friction is not taken into account(Am I right? I'm not sure, if it is true then why kinetic friction is not taken into account despite the car is moving).
Does this mean that the maximum brake force is (kinetic friction)*(normal)?
What really confused me was the other day a problem in which impending slipping was involved.
Data is not important, the problem is concepts not the problem itself.
A car of weigh W is on an incline it has certain initial velocity then brakes are applied, knowing that slipping is impending find static coefficient.
I'm not looking for an anwser to this problem, I just want to understand. why is it that when brakes are applied static friction coefficient is involved. Shouldn't kinetic friction be involved as the car is moving with respect to the ground? Why in other problems with horizontal surface surface kinetic friction was involvved and not static friction as in this problem? Does this happen only when impending slipping is involved?
Let's suppose we are given a problem with kinetic or static coefficient.
I'm confusing when should or should not apply kinetic friction to a car, for example in some problems if brakes are applied then friction is involved (as if it were a box), however if brakes are not applied friction is not taken into account(Am I right? I'm not sure, if it is true then why kinetic friction is not taken into account despite the car is moving).
Does this mean that the maximum brake force is (kinetic friction)*(normal)?
What really confused me was the other day a problem in which impending slipping was involved.
Homework Statement
Data is not important, the problem is concepts not the problem itself.
A car of weigh W is on an incline it has certain initial velocity then brakes are applied, knowing that slipping is impending find static coefficient.
The Attempt at a Solution
I'm not looking for an anwser to this problem, I just want to understand. why is it that when brakes are applied static friction coefficient is involved. Shouldn't kinetic friction be involved as the car is moving with respect to the ground? Why in other problems with horizontal surface surface kinetic friction was involvved and not static friction as in this problem? Does this happen only when impending slipping is involved?