Positive definite inner product on Lie algebra.

In summary, the statement is that if the group G is compact and simple, then there exists a positive-definite inner product on the Lie algebra. This is proved by showing that if the Lie group is also simple, then there is a unique Ad-invariant inner product on the Lie algebra.
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While studying Yang-Mills theory, I've come across the statement that
there exists a positive-definite inner product on the lie algebra ##\mathfrak g## iff the group ##G## is compact and simple. Why is this true, and how it is proved?
 
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. The Lie algebra [itex] \mathfrak{g} [/itex] coming from a finite dimensional manifold is just a finite dimensional vector space so of course we can always construct a positive definite inner product on it just by choosing a basis and using the standard inner product on n-tuples.

In fact, this can even be made Ad-invariant for a compact Lie group. If we let [itex] G [/itex] be any compact Lie group, we have the representation [itex] \mathrm{Ad}:G\to GL(\mathfrak{g}) [/itex] and we also have a left Haar measure [itex] dx [/itex] on [itex] G [/itex]. Define the inner product by
[tex] (u,v)=\int_G \langle Ad(x)u, Ad(x)v \rangle dx [/tex]
where [itex] \langle \cdot,\cdot \rangle [/itex] is just any inner product. It is straightforward to check that this is a positive-definite, ad-invariant inner product.

If the Lie group is also simple as well as compact, then this will be a unique Ad-invariant inner product (up to scaling by a constant I think) on the Lie algebra so perhaps the statement is meant to be there is a unique Ad-invariant inner product on [itex] \mathfrak{g} [/itex] iff the group [itex] G [/itex] is compact and simple?
 
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Terandol said:
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. The Lie algebra [itex] \mathfrak{g} [/itex] coming from a finite dimensional manifold is just a finite dimensional vector space so of course we can always construct a positive definite inner product on it just by choosing a basis and using the standard inner product on n-tuples.

In fact, this can even be made Ad-invariant for a compact Lie group. If we let [itex] G [/itex] be any compact Lie group, we have the representation [itex] \mathrm{Ad}:G\to GL(\mathfrak{g}) [/itex] and we also have a left Haar measure [itex] dx [/itex] on [itex] G [/itex]. Define the inner product by
[tex] (u,v)=\int_G \langle Ad(x)u, Ad(x)v \rangle dx [/tex]
where [itex] \langle \cdot,\cdot \rangle [/itex] is just any inner product. It is straightforward to check that this is a positive-definite, ad-invariant inner product.

If the Lie group is also simple as well as compact, then this will be a unique Ad-invariant inner product (up to scaling by a constant I think) on the Lie algebra so perhaps the statement is meant to be there is a unique Ad-invariant inner product on [itex] \mathfrak{g} [/itex] iff the group [itex] G [/itex] is compact and simple?

Yes, I did forget the Ad-invariant part. Perhaps, you can help me with a related question:
when G is simple, then as you said the inner product is unique up to scale.. Let's chose one of them, say the inner product ##h: \times \mathfrak g \to \mathbb{R}##. Then in the Lagrangian
##L = - \frac{1}4 h_{kl}F^k_{\mu \nu} F^{l \mu \nu}##
with ##h_{kl}## the matrix of the relevant inner product. Any other Ad-invariant inner product ##g_{kl}## is proportional to this one, say ##h_{kl} = c g_{kl}##, which means that we can redefine ##\sqrt{c}F_{\mu \nu} \to F_{\mu \nu}## rendering the lagrangian equivalent.

But now suppose G is not simple. Then there are not one unique Ad-invariant inner product (up to scale) but several -- is it then irrelevant which one we choose in the Yang-Mill's lagrangian? As the above argument fails in this case, why is this so?
 
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The easiest example to see that these inner products don't need to be unique on lie algebras that are not simple is just to take a semisimple lie algebra [itex] \mathfrak{g}=\mathfrak{h_1}\oplus \cdots\oplus \mathfrak{h_n} [/itex]. Then you can define a bi-invariant inner product on each summand however now you can scale the inner products independently in each factor rather than a single overall scaling factor.

As to how this affects the Lagrangian, I presume by equivalent you just mean it yields the same physics (ie. equations of motion?) In this case I believe the Lagrangian is not equivalent (you probably shouldn't trust me here though since I'm definitely not a physicist.) My reasoning is the Hodge star operator appears in the equation of motion, which here is the Yang-Mills equation [itex] \star d_D\star F=0[/itex], as well as in the definition of the lagrangian. Changing the inner product will change the Hodge star which usually will change the Yang-Mills equation itself. You would have to look at the functional dependence of the Yang Mills equation on the inner product to determine exactly for which class of transformations of the inner product it remains invariant.
 
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I can confirm that this statement is indeed true. In order to understand why, let's first define the terms involved. A Lie algebra is a mathematical structure that represents the infinitesimal transformations of a Lie group, which is a continuous group with a smooth structure. In this context, the Lie algebra ##\mathfrak g## is the tangent space of the Lie group ##G## at the identity element.

Now, an inner product on a vector space is a mathematical operation that takes two vectors and produces a scalar value. It is usually denoted as ⟨u,v⟩ and has properties such as symmetry, linearity, and positive-definiteness. In this case, the inner product on the Lie algebra ##\mathfrak g## is used to define the metric structure of the Lie group ##G##.

The statement that there exists a positive-definite inner product on the Lie algebra ##\mathfrak g## if and only if the Lie group ##G## is compact and simple can be proved using the Peter-Weyl theorem. This theorem states that any compact and connected Lie group can be decomposed into a direct sum of irreducible representations. In other words, it can be broken down into its most basic building blocks.

Now, for a Lie group to be compact and simple, it must have a finite number of irreducible representations. This means that the Lie algebra ##\mathfrak g## must also have a finite number of irreducible representations. By choosing an appropriate basis for the Lie algebra, we can construct a positive-definite inner product that is compatible with these irreducible representations. This is known as the Cartan-Killing form.

On the other hand, if the Lie group ##G## is not compact and simple, it will have an infinite number of irreducible representations. In this case, it is not possible to construct a positive-definite inner product on the Lie algebra ##\mathfrak g##. This is because the Cartan-Killing form would not be able to capture the infinite number of irreducible representations.

In conclusion, the existence of a positive-definite inner product on the Lie algebra ##\mathfrak g## is closely related to the compactness and simplicity of the corresponding Lie group ##G##. This is an important result in Yang-Mills theory, as it allows us to define a metric structure on the Lie group, which is essential for understanding the behavior of gauge fields.
 

1. What is a positive definite inner product on a Lie algebra?

A positive definite inner product on a Lie algebra is a bilinear form that assigns a real number to every pair of elements in the Lie algebra. This bilinear form has three important properties: it is symmetric, it is positive definite, and it satisfies the Leibniz identity.

2. Why is a positive definite inner product important in Lie algebras?

A positive definite inner product is important in Lie algebras because it allows us to define notions of length and angle in the Lie algebra. This in turn allows us to study the geometry of the Lie algebra, which is crucial in many applications, such as in physics and differential geometry.

3. How is a positive definite inner product defined on a Lie algebra?

A positive definite inner product is defined on a Lie algebra by specifying a bilinear form that satisfies the three properties mentioned above. This can be done by explicitly defining the bilinear form or by constructing it using a suitable basis for the Lie algebra.

4. What are some examples of positive definite inner products on Lie algebras?

One example of a positive definite inner product on a Lie algebra is the Killing form, which is defined as a specific bilinear form on a semisimple Lie algebra. Another example is the Cartan-Killing form, which is defined on any Lie algebra and is closely related to the Killing form.

5. Can a Lie algebra have more than one positive definite inner product?

Yes, a Lie algebra can have multiple positive definite inner products. In fact, there are infinitely many positive definite inner products that can be defined on a given Lie algebra. However, these inner products may not all be equivalent, meaning that they may not produce the same notions of length and angle in the Lie algebra.

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