Relativistic collision in CM frame at small angle

In summary, the energy in the CM frame is the same as in the lab frame, and the small angle deflection doesn't matter at energies as high as 500 GeV.
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Homework Statement



Find CM energy of a mu+ mu- collider, with each beam having an energy E of 500 GeV. The beams cross at a small angle of 250 mrad.

Homework Equations



[tex]E^2 - p^2c^2 = m^2c^4[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



So I have a diagram for the lab frame which has the mu- coming in at a small angle to the mu+ which goes along the x-axis, say. In the CM frame, (I think) this would be a head-on collision if I'm not wrong.

So we look at the 4-momenta in each frame:

[tex]P^{\mu}_{tot} = (\frac{2E}{c},0)[/tex] for the CM and
[tex]P^{\mu '}_{tot} = (\frac{2E'}{c},p'_{\mu^+} - p'_{\mu^-}cos\theta,-p'_{\mu^-}sin\theta)[/tex]

for the lab frame. We have the x-components of the momenta subtracting and a y-component of momentum that isn't canceled by the mu+. So the next step is to set the lab and CM frame momenta equal to each other:

[tex]\left( \frac{2E}{c}\right)^2 = \left( \frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 - \left( p'_{\mu^+} - p'_{\mu^-}cos \theta - p'_{\mu^-}sin \theta \right)^2[/tex]

Now we know that the magnitudes of the momenta in the lab frame are equal, since the beams have equal energy. We can then pull out the momentum:

[tex]\left( \frac{2E}{c}\right)^2 = \left( \frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 - \left|p_{\mu} \right|^2 \left( 1 - cos \theta -sin \theta \right)^2[/tex]

and replace with the invariant:

[tex]\left( \frac{2E}{c}\right)^2 = \left( \frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 - \left( \frac{E'^2 - m_{\mu}^2c^4}{c^2} \right) \left( 1 - cos \theta -sin \theta \right)^2[/tex]

the angular part, through the small angle approximation reduces to:

[tex]\left( 1 - cos \theta -sin \theta \right)^2 \Rightarrow \left( \frac{\theta^2}{2} + \theta \right)^2[/tex]

and squared

[tex]\left( \frac{\theta^4}{4} + \theta^3 + \theta^2 \right)[/tex]

And because theta is small, theta to the 4th is even smaller, so we can get away with neglecting terms of order higher than 2:

[tex]\left( \frac{\theta^4}{4} + \theta^3 + \theta^2 \right) \Rightarrow \theta^2[/tex]

Then solving for Ecm:

[tex]E_{cm} = \left[ \left(\frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 + \left( \frac{E'^2 - m_{\mu}^2c^4}{c^2} \right) \theta^2 \right]^{1/2} \cdot \frac{c}{2}[/tex]

The plus sign between the two terms on the right comes from the fact that when you small angle approximate the thetas, the 1's cancel from that term and you can factor out a minus sign to cancel the one in front of the momentum term.

Does this seem right? I feel a bit uneasy about it. I mean, if the angle is zero, it reduces nicely down to Ecm = Elab, but that doesn't really seem especially illuminating. Did my sequence of handwaviness work?

Incedentally, because the muon mass is so much smaller than the energy, it reduces down to:

[tex]E_{cm} = \left[ \left(\frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 + \left( \frac{E'}{c} \right)^{2} \theta^2 \right]^{1/2} \cdot \frac{c}{2}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow E_{cm} = \left[ 4\left(\frac{E'}{c}\right)^2 + \left( \frac{E'}{c} \right)^2\theta^2 \right]^{1/2} \cdot \frac{c}{2}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow E_{cm} = \frac{E'}{c}(4+\theta^2)^{1/2} \frac{c}{2}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow E_{cm} = \frac{E'}{2}(4+\theta^2)^{1/2}[/tex]

Does this seem right? Should I not have small angle'd the theta terms or what?
 
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This bit isn't right:
[tex]\left( \frac{2E}{c}\right)^2 = \left( \frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 - \left( p'_{\mu^+} - p'_{\mu^-}cos \theta - p'_{\mu^-}sin \theta \right)^2[/tex]
Because the components of momenta should each be squared on their own, then added, but you've added the x and y components, then squared. (Easy mistake, I've done this before too).
 
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BruceW said:
This bit isn't right:
[tex]\left( \frac{2E}{c}\right)^2 = \left( \frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 - \left( p'_{\mu^+} - p'_{\mu^-}cos \theta - p'_{\mu^-}sin \theta \right)^2[/tex]
Because the components of momenta should each be squared on their own, then added, but you've added the x and y components, then squared. (Easy mistake, I've done this before too).

So in that case, would this be a legitimate way of approaching the problem? I don't like the sines and cosines and I want to get rid of them, so

[tex]\left( \frac{2E}{c}\right)^2 = \left( \frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 - \left( p'_{\mu^+} - p'_{\mu^-}cos \theta\right)^2 - \left( p'_{\mu^-}sin \theta \right)^2[/tex]

for small theta, cos -> 1 and sin -> 0,

[tex]\left( \frac{2E}{c}\right)^2 = \left( \frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 - \left( p'_{\mu^+} - p'_{\mu^-} \right)^2 [/tex]

and because the magnitudes of the momenta are the same,

[tex]\left( \frac{2E}{c}\right)^2 = \left( \frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 - |p'|\left( 1 - 1 \right)^2 [/tex]

just tells us that the energy in the CM frame is the same as in the lab frame (eg that the small angle deflection doesn't really matter at energies as high as 500 GeV). There is a part of the question that reminds you that the muon mass is much much less than the muon energy, but I don't see how that comes into play here.

The question point-value isn't very high, so I should expect a pretty straightforward answer (versus the ninja-ing I did earlier), but this just seems like a "duh" answer. Or did I mess up the momentum squaring again?
 
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Ai52487963 said:
So in that case, would this be a legitimate way of approaching the problem? I don't like the sines and cosines and I want to get rid of them, so

[tex]\left( \frac{2E}{c}\right)^2 = \left( \frac{2E'}{c}\right)^2 - \left( p'_{\mu^+} - p'_{\mu^-}cos \theta\right)^2 - \left( p'_{\mu^-}sin \theta \right)^2[/tex]
This is right, but then when you use the approximation with the angles, you are effectively saying that the angle is zero (which is why the answer says that the energy is the same in the CM and lab frame - because there is no angle, so they are the same thing!)

I don't think you need to use any small-angle approximations, just use the angle you are given in the equation. You also said about the muon mass energy being much less than the total energy of the particles. You can make an approximation using this fact, which is similar to the approximation you used in the first post.
 
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Your approach seems mostly correct. However, there are a few things that could be improved upon:

1. In the CM frame, the muons are not necessarily colliding head-on. The angle between their momenta may depend on the specific details of the collision. Therefore, it is not entirely accurate to say that the collision is head-on in the CM frame.

2. When setting the lab and CM frame momenta equal to each other, you have neglected the fact that the momenta are not necessarily in the same direction. This means that the y-component of momentum in the lab frame should not be subtracted from the x-components. Instead, you should use the dot product to relate the magnitudes of the momenta: |p'|^2 = |p|^2 + p_y^2.

3. In your final expression for E_cm, you have neglected to include the mass of the muons. This should be included in the expression for the invariant, as it is not negligible compared to the energy of the muons.

With these corrections, your final expression for E_cm should be:

E_cm = [4(E'/c)^2 + (E'^2 - m_mu^2c^4)/c^2 * θ^2]^1/2 * c/2

I hope this helps! Keep up the good work.
 

1. What is a relativistic collision in the center of mass (CM) frame?

A relativistic collision in the CM frame is a collision between two particles in which the total momentum of the system is zero. This means that the particles have equal and opposite momenta, resulting in a stationary center of mass.

2. How is the CM frame different from the laboratory frame in a relativistic collision?

In the CM frame, the total momentum of the system is zero and the particles have equal and opposite momenta. In the laboratory frame, the particles may have different momenta and the total momentum of the system is not necessarily zero. Additionally, the velocities of the particles can be different in the laboratory frame, but are equal in the CM frame.

3. What is the significance of a small angle in a relativistic collision in the CM frame?

A small angle in a relativistic collision in the CM frame means that the particles are deflected by a small amount relative to their initial trajectories. This can be used to study the properties of the particles and their interactions.

4. How is energy conserved in a relativistic collision in the CM frame at small angle?

In a relativistic collision in the CM frame at small angle, energy is conserved through the conservation of momentum. The total energy of the system before and after the collision remains the same, but the distribution of energy between the particles may change.

5. What are the applications of studying relativistic collisions in the CM frame at small angle?

Studying relativistic collisions in the CM frame at small angle can provide insights into the fundamental properties of particles and their interactions. This can be applied in fields such as particle physics, astrophysics, and medical physics to understand the behavior of particles and their interactions in various environments.

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