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ok, i have forgotten my thermodynamics, and need a confirmation for my thoughts here...if youd compress He gas by blowing more gas into a thermo-isolated tank, the tank would get hotter right?
and after compressing it enough the gas will become fluid (thats not a real phase transition, but you can't call it gas nor liquid after some density).
1) would you get a solid state after even more compression?
-my guess is no, because i can't see anything that would cause such a phase transition, i don't think the attractive powers will ever get strong enough if we started with He gas at room temprature and 1atm, as the temprature keeps rising when we compress it.
2) will there be a change of the temprature gradient as a function of pressure or will the temprature rise leniearly as a function of pressure?
-my guess is it'll rise linearly, because the work done for increasing the pressure is always the same for constant volume, but youd get less molecules inside the tank per unit pressure increase.
3) what would happen if youd compress it all enough to become "quark plasma" (like neutron star)?
- my guess is that it'll be VERY hot, it should make an explosion when it collapses like stars do, and we'll probably won't see it anymore, because light doesn't interact with it anymore.
am i right?
please regard all three guesses...
EDIT:
by the way, i kinda got carried away with this post, so the title is a bit misleading, no cooling here if I am right... so if any moderator is there, feel free to change the subject's name...
and after compressing it enough the gas will become fluid (thats not a real phase transition, but you can't call it gas nor liquid after some density).
1) would you get a solid state after even more compression?
-my guess is no, because i can't see anything that would cause such a phase transition, i don't think the attractive powers will ever get strong enough if we started with He gas at room temprature and 1atm, as the temprature keeps rising when we compress it.
2) will there be a change of the temprature gradient as a function of pressure or will the temprature rise leniearly as a function of pressure?
-my guess is it'll rise linearly, because the work done for increasing the pressure is always the same for constant volume, but youd get less molecules inside the tank per unit pressure increase.
3) what would happen if youd compress it all enough to become "quark plasma" (like neutron star)?
- my guess is that it'll be VERY hot, it should make an explosion when it collapses like stars do, and we'll probably won't see it anymore, because light doesn't interact with it anymore.
am i right?
please regard all three guesses...
EDIT:
by the way, i kinda got carried away with this post, so the title is a bit misleading, no cooling here if I am right... so if any moderator is there, feel free to change the subject's name...
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