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How well do Aspies get along with other Aspies? I'm just curious.
AnTiFreeze3 said:You could examine how well people around here get along, seeing as how most of the people here are convinced that they have Asperger's, or some other disease that makes them antisocial.
lisab said:Ah good point. I was wondering about in person, not online - e.g. at a workplace.
AnTiFreeze3 said:My attempt at humor...
I don't have Asperger's, but had an extreme case of self-consciousness and shyness in my freshman year of high school. It wasn't that big of an issue, but it definitely bothered me. The funny thing was, not that many people commented on it, or brought it up, because my face never got red or any of the tell-tale signs like that, but on the inside, I felt like a more obscene version of the word poop.
Eventually, at some time during the summer between my freshman and sophomore year, I snapped out of it, realized I had nothing to worry about, and no longer cared about speaking in front of people, etc. etc. What I have really noticed after this, though, is that I can now relate to the people who I see as shy. I feel genuine empathy towards them and what they're feeling, because I felt that same way no more than a year and a half ago. Aspies (nice term, by the way) clearly suffer from social disabilities, avoid eye contact, confrontation, etc. While I have no idea whether or not they would still continue to have those traits amongst each other, I am guessing that (similarly to my situation) they are at least able to recognize somebody else who goes through what they do, and empathize with them, which in turn might create bond between them.
It's almost the same logic behind AA meetings and the like. It's beneficial to you to be around people dealing with the same difficulties as you, because they can relate to what you're going through. I couldn't know what it would be like to have Asperger's, so I can't talk with one of them as if I knew exactly what they felt like, but clearly somebody else with Asperger's could. That connection of going through the same hardships, I believe, would at least generate some sympathy between people who have Asperger's.
That's just my 2 cents on this. I don't have a degree in Medical Science, and all of this is speculation as to what I know from personal experiences, but I felt obliged to share my thoughts on this seeing as how I've already posted in here once, that I mine as well make a somewhat beneficial contribution to the thread.
Aspies aren't shy and self-conscious, though. In fact, they are likely to get themselves into trouble by blurting out overly personal information or asking overly personal questions. For example, someone told me a girl Aspie they knew once blurted out, during a conversation in a crowded coffeeshop," Oh I think that actor is so handsome! I masturbated thinking about him last night!" Their trouble with social interaction arises from being very naive, not from being shy. The content of their remarks can often have a shameless boastful-sounding edge; they enjoy ticking off perceived personal accomplishments, which is one of the many reasons they tend to attract attention from bullies in school.AnTiFreeze3 said:I don't have Asperger's, but had an extreme case of self-consciousness and shyness in my freshman year of high school.
This is a good point.Evo said:...I tried to modify my behaviour accordingly to make them more comfortable, but found it very difficult to maintain. I doubt another person with aspergers could/would do this.
This often happens when I'm drunk. I wonder what happens when Aspies get drunk...lisab said:One of the characteristics of Asperger's is a "blind spot" when trying to figure out other people's feelings. They may be brutally blunt in situations that neurotypicals would treat with a bit more tact or sensitivity.
AnTiFreeze3 said:What I have really noticed after this, though, is that I can now relate to the people who I see as shy. I feel genuine empathy towards them and what they're feeling, because I felt that same way no more than a year and a half ago.
AnTiFreeze3 said:You could examine how well people around here get along, seeing as how most of the people here are convinced that they have Asperger's, or some other disease that makes them antisocial.
I don't know any scientific studies that address this issue. However, I have been diagnosed with Asperger's. I have a few anecdotes regarding peoples interactions in the workplace and on the Internet. My impression is that Aspies and dyslexics often don't get along.lisab said:How well do Aspies get along with other Aspies? I'm just curious.
Evo said:...they both could not look people in the eye...
I would bet these people were joking. Aspies and other people who aren't tuned into humor for whatever reason often don't pick up on it when people are engaging in "dead pan" humor. A lot of humorous remarks just aren't funny unless you pretend you're perfectly serious. "Dead pan" means "straight faced", a perfectly serious face that never betrays that you realize what you're saying is silly, outrageous, or ridiculous.Darwin123 said:Often, one finds a dyslexic in real denial. I have met a few dyslexics who claim that all mathematics is a plot to subjugate superior people like themselves. They will claim that all logic is the work of con artists. You can imagine how that grates on people who only have logic.
zoobyshoe said:I would bet these people were joking. Aspies and other people who aren't tuned into humor for whatever reason often don't pick up on it when people are engaging in "dead pan" humor. A lot of humorous remarks just aren't funny unless you pretend you're perfectly serious. "Dead pan" means "straight faced", a perfectly serious face that never betrays that you realize what you're saying is silly, outrageous, or ridiculous.
Steve Wright is a good example of Dead Pan humor:
"...mathematics is a plot to subjugate superior people like themselves" sounds a little too outrageous to think they were actually serious when they said it.
Darwin123 said:Of course, I am not really good with intuition. I pretty much fit the current diagnostic criteria for Aspergers like a glove. However, I know deadpan humor. I use it a lot. This is part of an overall passive-aggressive strategy. Some people like dead pan humor, and some people don't. However, I thought recognizing dead pan humor was the one emotional judgement that I was good at.
The people that I am talking about seem to prefer an aggressive-aggressive strategy. Also, they claim to be proud of their dyslexia. It did not appear to be funny, even to them. They did not present a dead pan aspect. They appeared more angry. I may be wrong when reading this. However, I know anger when it is presented in a straightforward way. This was straightforward.
The people that I am talking too were very close to hysterical. A few were talking on the internet, and were using angry words. Another who I saw up close was a student who had threatened a few professors. He did not look dead pan at all. He had a red face.
Would an neurotypical person use deadpan humor when he was very angry
It's my experience that Aspies don't get dean pan humor at first, but that once they get it they're very good at it and even enthusiastic about it. There's a prevalent rumor I've never been able to confirm that Dan Ackroyd has Asperger's. If it's true, it certainly blows the "they don't get humor" meme to hell. For that reason, I've always hoped it was true.Darwin123 said:Of course, I am not really good with intuition. I pretty much fit the current diagnostic criteria for Aspergers like a glove. However, I know deadpan humor. I use it a lot. This is part of an overall passive-aggressive strategy. Some people like dead pan humor, and some people don't. However, I thought recognizing dead pan humor was the one emotional judgement that I was good at.
AnTiFreeze3 said:You could examine how well people around here get along, seeing as how most of the people here are convinced that they have Asperger's, or some other disease that makes them antisocial.
MojoMcGunner said:Asperger's is a disease? That's news to me.
That's very sad Andre, are they watching Myrtle closely for early signs that she's not making normal progression? Or is this something that can't be determined until the child is a few years old, due to normal varying progession levels in very early childhood?Andre said:Aspergers or not, maybe things are just much more complicated. Today I learned about Sensory processing disorder as it may seem that my grandson shares some symptoms of those and quite strongly so. Some of these are also suggested to be asperger traits (mix up?). That makes things very complex, I would think
Evo said:That's very sad Andre, are they watching Myrtle closely for early signs that she's not making normal progression? Or is this something that can't be determined until the child is a few years old, due to normal varying progession levels in very early childhood?
Asperger Syndrome is a developmental disorder that affects a person's ability to socialize and communicate effectively with others. It is considered a high-functioning form of autism, and individuals with Asperger Syndrome often have average or above-average intelligence.
Some common symptoms of Asperger Syndrome include difficulty with social interactions and communication, repetitive behaviors and routines, intense interests in specific topics, and sensory sensitivities.
Asperger Syndrome is typically diagnosed through a combination of observations and evaluations by a team of professionals, including psychologists, neurologists, and speech therapists. A comprehensive assessment is used to evaluate a person's communication skills, social interactions, and behavior.
While there is no cure for Asperger Syndrome, there are various treatments and therapies that can help individuals manage their symptoms and improve their quality of life. These may include social skills training, speech therapy, and occupational therapy.
While Asperger Syndrome is considered a form of autism, it is now classified as part of the autism spectrum disorder (ASD) diagnosis. However, Asperger Syndrome is often characterized by milder symptoms and a higher level of functioning compared to other forms of ASD.