Missing Milky Way Dark Matter: Surprising Constraints on the Lambda-CDM Model

In summary: This is not true or misleading at best. L-CDM makes strong assumptions about galactic formation. In fact without the dark matter assumption galaxies couldn't form at all within the L-CDM model.Simply quoting from the link of the OP :"The current understanding is that dark matter helped form the first galaxies by providing gravitational scaffolding in the early universe".A different thing is that the L-CDM model doesn't enter on the actual details of galaxy formation. That much is true.
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I don't understand their assumption dark matter would have a preferred distribution.
 
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Grep said:
It introduces what seems to be rather tight constraints on the dark disc.

Really interesting.

What effect might this have on the Lambda-CDM model, for example?

Not very much, since Lambda-CDM doesn't make too many assumptions about galactic formation.

Lots of interesting implications for galaxy formation.
 
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Thank you both for your comments, they are appreciated.
 
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Grep said:
Just read an article on Universe Today at:

http://www.universetoday.com/77662/missing-milky-way-dark-matter/

The paper is at http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1011/1011.1289v1.pdf .

It introduces what seems to be rather tight constraints on the dark disc. Any cosmologists care to comment on it? What effect might this have on the Lambda-CDM model, for example? I'm somewhat surprised at these results.

At least someone is surprised, certainly a whole lot of people in this forum should be very surprised at these results, it's kind of weird that the diehard supporters of the dark matter hypothesis don't show up here to bash the paper, probably they can't and therefore choose to ignore it.
IMHO there should be more work in this direction to confirm it, and if indeed it is confirmed it is a serious indication that the hypothesis of dark matter (and MOND) should be abandoned.
twofish-quant said:
Really interesting.
Lots of interesting implications for galaxy formation.
Indeed, I agree.

twofish-quant said:
Not very much, since Lambda-CDM doesn't make too many assumptions about galactic formation.
This is not true or misleading at best. L-CDM makes strong assumptions about galactic formation. In fact without the dark matter assumption galaxies couldn't form at all within the L-CDM model.Simply quoting from the link of the OP :"The current understanding is that dark matter helped form the first galaxies by providing gravitational scaffolding in the early universe".
A different thing is that the L-CDM model doesn't enter on the actual details of galaxy formation. That much is true.
 
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This paper seems interesting but there doesn't seem to be enough to make some analysis.
Obvious question that comes to my mind. If there is no significant effect of dark matter at 2-4kpc then at what distance effect of dark matter is significant and how it changes if it does that?
Then it would be possible to make some speculations about dark matter profile within galaxy.
 
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TrickyDicky said:
At least someone is surprised, certainly a whole lot of people in this forum should be very surprised at these results, it's kind of weird that the diehard supporters of the dark matter hypothesis don't show up here to bash the paper, probably they can't and therefore choose to ignore it.

Just a question: isn't the disk supposed to contain only a very small portion of the total dark matter halo of our Galaxy?

If so, I do not see why this places constraints on the dark matter hypothesis; perhaps just on the thickness and density of the portion in the disk, values which are uncertain at best.
 
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Dark matter is generally believed to be distributed uniformly around the galaxy in a halo, not a disc. The shape of the milky way is believed to be due to a spherical wave. Dark matter is not similarily influenced. In other words, there is no evidence suggesting dark matter distribution must mimic the shape of the milky way.
 

1. What is the Lambda-CDM model?

The Lambda-CDM (Lambda cold dark matter) model is a widely accepted cosmological model that describes the evolution of the universe. It is based on the theory of general relativity and includes the presence of dark energy and dark matter, which make up a large portion of the universe's total energy and mass.

2. What is dark matter?

Dark matter is a type of matter that does not interact with light or other forms of electromagnetic radiation, making it invisible to telescopes and other instruments. It is believed to make up about 85% of the total matter in the universe and is essential in explaining the observed motions of galaxies and galaxy clusters.

3. What is the missing Milky Way dark matter problem?

The missing Milky Way dark matter problem refers to the discrepancy between the amount of dark matter predicted by the Lambda-CDM model and the amount observed in our own Milky Way galaxy. According to the model, there should be a much larger amount of dark matter present in our galaxy's halo, but observations suggest that there is significantly less.

4. What are the surprising constraints on the Lambda-CDM model from the missing Milky Way dark matter problem?

The missing Milky Way dark matter problem has led to some surprising constraints on the Lambda-CDM model. For example, it suggests that the model may need to be revised to account for the distribution of dark matter in smaller galaxies, as well as the possibility of non-gravitational interactions between dark matter particles.

5. How does this impact our understanding of the universe?

The missing Milky Way dark matter problem challenges our current understanding of the universe and the Lambda-CDM model. It may require scientists to reassess their theories about the nature of dark matter and its role in the evolution of the universe. It also highlights the need for further research and observations to better understand the mysteries of dark matter.

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