The Extra Energy of a Doppler-Shifted Photon: Where Does it Go?

In summary, when a photon is doppler shifted due to the motion of an observer, the difference in energy levels observed by the two observers is accounted for by the recoil of the atom. This is because the photon's momentum is also absorbed by the atom, causing it to recoil and resulting in a larger increase in kinetic energy for the observer in motion. However, this does not change the energy level to which the atom is excited, as both observers will agree on that.
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I understand mathematically etc how light can doppler shift when looked at as a wave but can it be understood how light doppler shifts as a photon i.e. could just one photon be doppler shifted?

For example;
Say there is an atom with energy levels 1 and 2. One observer, stationary relative to the atom, observes a photon of energy level 1 excite the atom (to level 1 of course).
Another observer is moving relative to the atom such that they observe the photon to have enough energy, due to the doppler shift, to excite the atom to level 2. Surely, then, they would observe the atom excite to level 2? However, this does not agree with the first observer.

I feel that there must be something fundamentally wrong with my understanding of this process and that before I seek the answer to this particular question there is more to be understood about the process of Doppler shifting etc.
 
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For what it's worth, I'm going to make a complete guess that the energy levels are shifted by exactly the same amount as the doppler shift.
 
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Zak said:
Say there is an atom with energy levels 1 and 2. One observer, stationary relative to the atom, observes a photon of energy level 1 excite the atom (to level 1 of course).
Another observer is moving relative to the atom such that they observe the photon to have enough energy, due to the doppler shift, to excite the atom to level 2. Surely, then, they would observe the atom excite to level 2? However, this does not agree with the first observer.

The observers will never disagree about which energy level the atom is excited to. So where does the extra energy go, according to the second observer? It goes into the recoil of the atom. When the atom absorbs the photon it also absorbs the photon's momentum and so recoils slightly: the atom's kinetic energy increases. The second observer sees a larger increase in kinetic energy, which exactly accounts for the excess energy of the photon in their frame.

Why does the second observer see a larger increase in kinetic energy? Say the atom is initially stationary in the first observer's frame, and after absorbing the photon it recoils at a speed of 1 m/s. Meanwhile in the second observers frame it starts out with a speed of 1000 m/s (say) and after absorbing the photon has a speed of 1001 m/s. Plugging these numbers into the formula ##K.E. = mv^2/2##, you will see that the increase in kinetic energy is much larger in the second observer's frame.
 
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1. What is Doppler shift of a photon?

The Doppler shift of a photon is the change in wavelength or frequency of a photon as it moves towards or away from an observer. This phenomenon is caused by the relative motion between the source of the photon and the observer.

2. How is the Doppler shift of a photon measured?

The Doppler shift of a photon can be measured by comparing the observed wavelength or frequency of the photon with its rest wavelength or frequency. This can be done using spectroscopy techniques, such as the Doppler effect or the redshift or blueshift of spectral lines.

3. What causes the Doppler shift of a photon?

The Doppler shift of a photon is caused by the relative motion between the source of the photon and the observer. If the source is moving towards the observer, the wavelength of the photon will appear shorter and the frequency will appear higher. If the source is moving away from the observer, the wavelength will appear longer and the frequency will appear lower.

4. How does the Doppler shift of a photon affect astronomical observations?

The Doppler shift of a photon is an important factor in astronomical observations. It allows scientists to determine the velocity and direction of celestial objects, such as stars and galaxies. It also helps in studying the expansion of the universe and the motion of objects within it.

5. Can the Doppler shift of a photon be used to measure the speed of light?

No, the Doppler shift of a photon cannot be used to measure the speed of light. This is because the speed of light is constant, and the Doppler shift only affects the wavelength and frequency of the photon, not its speed. However, the Doppler shift can be used to measure the relative motion between the source of the photon and the observer.

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