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We have seen nuclear power when atoms split. Could it be ..the day we split the proton is the day we end our own world? I just hope E=mc^2 holds.
lzkelley said:We have split the proton.
atom888 said:I'm missing something.
malawi_glenn said:http://physics.nmt.edu/~raymond/classes/ph13xbook/node194.html
When high enough momenta is transferred from the electron to one of the quarks in the proton, it breaks up into many other particles.
It was done in the 1960's and 70's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_inelastic_scattering
But the nucleons are different objects than the the nucleis, so I don't think you can build bombs and "nucleon-powerplants". You can not use an arbitrary nuclei for making bombs or powerplants, they must fulfill certain needs. So don't panic ;)
atom888 said:This is MADNESS! lol thanks for the info
The articles say that when an electron hit the proton, a lot of stuffs come out. We have to make up a model and interpretation. This world is forever in mystery.
atom888 said:This is MADNESS! lol thanks for the info
The articles say that when an electron hit the proton, a lot of stuffs come out. We have to make up a model and interpretation. This world is forever in mystery.
sirzerp said:Could be everything was already there, and the collision just lit up the area so we could see it. I love how everyone thinks space is empty.
In fact, the theory seems to be crazy enough, because it works wondefully.atom888 said:This is MADNESS!
If you throw an electron (lepton) on a hadron, and observe only the electron (lepton) recoiling, you can use a powerful theorem called the optical theorem, which in fact greatly simplify the situation. The total cross-section for the scattering in any non-zero direction is related (equal) to the imaginary part of the amplitude for forward scattering. Forward scattering is a process for which the initial state is the same as the final state. Of course it cannot be measured experimentally. But the wonder is that you can formally write down this forward amplitude in terms of things that depend only on the hadron structure that you wish to invetigate and not on the details of how you investigate it. That means, you can throw an electron or you can throw a muon for instance. You can throw a proton and anti-proton and search for di-lepton events (Drell-Yan). And the beauty of it is that you write down your cross-section in terms of the same universal structure functions describing your hadron and it works wonders. This is called deep inelastic scattering (DIS).The articles say that when an electron hit the proton, a lot of stuffs come out. We have to make up a model and interpretation. This world is forever in mystery.
malawi_glenn said:Why make up when it already exist?
atom888 said:If you haven't notice. Feyman call it "partrons". That means he somewhat disagree with the quarks theory. I mean we do know something exist, we just do not know exactly what it is.
malawi_glenn said:And if you haven't noticed, Feynman is dead long ago. The quark model of the protons and so on has been rewarded by nobel prize.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=230139
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2004/public.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parton_(particle_physics )
Yesterday, you had no idea that one splitted the nucleons over 40years ago, and today you are telling me that we don't know what it is and that we have to make model and so on. That is quite strange..
Partons was just a suggestion from feynman et al. wheras the quark theory was dealing with another side of hadron spectroscopy. Later, when QCD was borned and so on, one realized that the partons and quarks are the same thing.
If you want a good intro book about elementary particle physics, I can recommend "Particle physics" by Martin & Shaw
atom888 said:It's base on the info you gave me. The diagram show that a bunch of stuff come when collide. Next to the picture is Feynman and some other guy theory and model. I thought that quark theory come out long before that.
atom888 said:Oho, now I have to ask that question. Please, do the honor. hehe
A proton is a subatomic particle that is found in the nucleus of an atom. It has a positive charge and is important because it determines the element and properties of the atom. Without protons, matter as we know it would not exist.
Currently, there is no known method to split a proton. Even if we were able to split a proton, it would not result in the destruction of the world. Protons are incredibly small and their splitting would not have any significant impact on the Earth or the universe.
No, it is not possible to create a chain reaction by splitting protons. This is because protons are held together by strong nuclear forces that prevent them from splitting easily. Additionally, the energy required to split a proton is much greater than the energy released from the split, making it an inefficient process.
Splitting protons is currently not a feasible or beneficial process. However, scientists are researching the potential of using proton beams for medical treatments, such as proton therapy for cancer. This involves accelerating protons to high speeds and directing them at targeted cancer cells.
If all protons in the universe were to be split, it would result in the complete breakdown of matter as we know it. This would lead to the destruction of all living beings and the universe as we know it. However, this scenario is highly unlikely and not possible with current technology.