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Hi
I have a practical problem/question:
I need to wire 2 PLC-s for communications (RS485 signal) and I am planning to use shielded twisted pair cable (Cat5 FTP). The signal cables are quite short - approx. 6 m.
One possible problem that could arise: between the 2 PLC-s, there is a buried power cable (perpendicular to the signal cable) - 2 x 1250 kW @ 400 VAC (I = 6,25 kA), buried approx. 0,7 m beneath the ground.
In short:
My main question would be, How strong will be the max EF (electric field) on the signal cables (signal cables run near the ground)?
Can I use the shielded twisted pair cable here? I know that twisted pair shielded cables are much more resistant to electric(/magnetic) fields, but is there a maximum allowed field in which cable manufacturers guarantee lossless operation? (should be propably in the cable datasheet...)
The longer version:
I tried to reintroduce myself with electromagnetic fields, but I got a little confused. Here is what I was thinking of:
I consider the strongest Electric field to be in the nearest point from the signal cable to the power cable, which is directly above the cable. For simplicity, I am concidering the power cable to be a uniformly charged rod with the total lenth of L. I am concidering the section of the signal cable directly above the power cable as a point P. The distance between point P and line L is b = 0,7 m. Since I have no detailed knowledge about the power cable, I assume that L >> b. If the projection of point P to the line L is marked with point O, and we mark both ends of the line as A and B, then I also assume that AO == BO >> b, which means I have to consider only the component of the electric field which is perpendicular to line L.
(The mathematical derivation of the formulas can be found here: http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=Electrostatics_ContinuousChargedRod.xml" )
[tex]E=\frac{\lambda}{4\pi\epsilon_{o}b }\left(\frac{AO}{\sqrt{AO^{2}+b^{2}}}+\frac{BO} { \sqrt{BO^{2}+b^{2}}}\right)[/tex] ,
where [tex]E[/tex] is the electric field,
[tex]\lambda[/tex] the line charge of the uniformly charged rod,
[tex]\epsilon_{0}[/tex] the electric constant,
[tex]b[/tex] the shortest distance between the signal cable and the power cable ( PO )
[tex]AO[/tex] the length of the power cable which spans to the left of the projection of point P on the line L
[tex]BO[/tex] the length of the power cable which spans to the right of the projection of point P on the line L
Since AO >> b and BO >> b, we can simplify the equation to this:
[tex]E=\frac{\lambda}{2\pi\epsilon_{o}b }[/tex]
The line charge of the uniformly charged rod is calculated:
[tex]\lambda=\frac{Q}{L}[/tex]
where [tex]Q[/tex] is the total charge of the rod and [tex]L[/tex] the total length of the rod
Since [tex]Q=I*t[/tex] where [tex]I[/tex] is the current that flows in the rod during the time [tex]t[/tex]
we can derive this formula:
[tex]\lambda=\frac{Q}{L}=\frac{I*t}{L}=\frac{I}{c}[/tex] where [tex]c[/tex] is the speed of light.
From this I can start calculating:
[tex] \lambda=\frac{6250}{3*10^{8}} = 2,083*10^{-5} \left(\frac{C}{m}\right)[/tex]
[tex]E=\frac{2,083*10^{-5}}{2\pi*8,854*10^{-12}*0,7}=534,98\left(\frac{kV}{m}\right)[/tex]
Are these results reasonable? It seems quite a lot to me...
It has been a while I operated with these formulas and I wanted to ask if somebody could please check my approach and calculations. Please point out what I might be doing wrong.
phew... took me almost an hour to complete this thread...
Anyway, I hope someone can help or comment on my problem.
Cheers!
I have a practical problem/question:
I need to wire 2 PLC-s for communications (RS485 signal) and I am planning to use shielded twisted pair cable (Cat5 FTP). The signal cables are quite short - approx. 6 m.
One possible problem that could arise: between the 2 PLC-s, there is a buried power cable (perpendicular to the signal cable) - 2 x 1250 kW @ 400 VAC (I = 6,25 kA), buried approx. 0,7 m beneath the ground.
In short:
My main question would be, How strong will be the max EF (electric field) on the signal cables (signal cables run near the ground)?
Can I use the shielded twisted pair cable here? I know that twisted pair shielded cables are much more resistant to electric(/magnetic) fields, but is there a maximum allowed field in which cable manufacturers guarantee lossless operation? (should be propably in the cable datasheet...)
The longer version:
I tried to reintroduce myself with electromagnetic fields, but I got a little confused. Here is what I was thinking of:
I consider the strongest Electric field to be in the nearest point from the signal cable to the power cable, which is directly above the cable. For simplicity, I am concidering the power cable to be a uniformly charged rod with the total lenth of L. I am concidering the section of the signal cable directly above the power cable as a point P. The distance between point P and line L is b = 0,7 m. Since I have no detailed knowledge about the power cable, I assume that L >> b. If the projection of point P to the line L is marked with point O, and we mark both ends of the line as A and B, then I also assume that AO == BO >> b, which means I have to consider only the component of the electric field which is perpendicular to line L.
(The mathematical derivation of the formulas can be found here: http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=Electrostatics_ContinuousChargedRod.xml" )
[tex]E=\frac{\lambda}{4\pi\epsilon_{o}b }\left(\frac{AO}{\sqrt{AO^{2}+b^{2}}}+\frac{BO} { \sqrt{BO^{2}+b^{2}}}\right)[/tex] ,
where [tex]E[/tex] is the electric field,
[tex]\lambda[/tex] the line charge of the uniformly charged rod,
[tex]\epsilon_{0}[/tex] the electric constant,
[tex]b[/tex] the shortest distance between the signal cable and the power cable ( PO )
[tex]AO[/tex] the length of the power cable which spans to the left of the projection of point P on the line L
[tex]BO[/tex] the length of the power cable which spans to the right of the projection of point P on the line L
Since AO >> b and BO >> b, we can simplify the equation to this:
[tex]E=\frac{\lambda}{2\pi\epsilon_{o}b }[/tex]
The line charge of the uniformly charged rod is calculated:
[tex]\lambda=\frac{Q}{L}[/tex]
where [tex]Q[/tex] is the total charge of the rod and [tex]L[/tex] the total length of the rod
Since [tex]Q=I*t[/tex] where [tex]I[/tex] is the current that flows in the rod during the time [tex]t[/tex]
we can derive this formula:
[tex]\lambda=\frac{Q}{L}=\frac{I*t}{L}=\frac{I}{c}[/tex] where [tex]c[/tex] is the speed of light.
From this I can start calculating:
[tex] \lambda=\frac{6250}{3*10^{8}} = 2,083*10^{-5} \left(\frac{C}{m}\right)[/tex]
[tex]E=\frac{2,083*10^{-5}}{2\pi*8,854*10^{-12}*0,7}=534,98\left(\frac{kV}{m}\right)[/tex]
Are these results reasonable? It seems quite a lot to me...
It has been a while I operated with these formulas and I wanted to ask if somebody could please check my approach and calculations. Please point out what I might be doing wrong.
phew... took me almost an hour to complete this thread...
Anyway, I hope someone can help or comment on my problem.
Cheers!
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