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What regulates the ground state energy of a hydrogen atom? Why is it constant (more or less)?
nuby said:What regulates the ground state energy of a hydrogen atom? Why is it constant (more or less)?
ZapperZ said:What exactly do you mean by "regulate"?
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nuby said:"Holds" the binding force (potential) at around -27.2 eV , and electron kinetic energy at +13.6 eV.
That works too, the Coulombic potential of ground state. What controls it?ZapperZ said:Binding force potential? Kinetic energy?
Even in the simplest Rydberg atom model, is it not obvious that we have a Coulombic potential? I mean, you have a positive nucleus, and a negative electron. Is there something here that I'm missing?
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nuby said:That works too, the Coulombic potential of ground state. How is it determined?
nuby said:I meant "what controls it" .. I edited my post right after you responded.
nuby said:"Holds" the binding force (potential?) at around -27.2 eV , and electron kinetic energy at +13.6 eV.
nuby said:these might make more sense.
1.) Why does the electron energy remain constant in ground state hydrogen, as well as the average size of the atom?
2.) Why don't protons and anti-protons interact like protons and electrons?
Thanks in advance
ZapperZ said:Because a proton is a baryon and an electron is a lepton, where is a proton/anti-proton are both baryon and the physics indicates that they are "mirror image" of each other, separated only by a few symmetry operations. You can't do the same with proton and electrons, which are both matter and not even identical to each other in many respects.
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This seems strange. Are you saying a proton can't fall into an electron because they don't have the same mass-energy, or volume?granpa said:I doubt it.
the reason the electron can't fall into the proton is that it is too big. a proton and an antiproton are the same size so they can cancel each other out completely. a proton and an electron can't do that.
granpa said:there is nothing in my post about a proton falling into a proton which would be strange indedd since they would electrostatically repel one another.
all I said was that the electron is (much) bigger than a proton.
granpa said:it means that it (the electron) is too big
granpa said:can you please read post 19.
granpa said:can you please read post 19.
granpa said:how big the electron is depends on how you define it. I prefer to think of the size of the electron as the size of its charge cloud.
nuby said:"Holds" the binding force (potential?) at around -27.2 eV , and electron kinetic energy at +13.6 eV.