Tensor - the indicial notation, beginners problem


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Dafe
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Sep19-08, 08:05 AM
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1. The problem statement and attempt at solution

Given the matrix S_ij and a_i evaluate a),b),c),d) and e)



For a) I think i use Einsteins convention.
b) I just first sum on i, and then on j giving me 9 terms. The answer I get is 24.

d) can i change m with i since they are both dummy indexes?

e) the same problem as d I guess, is this allowed?

I'm trying to learn continuum mechanics by my self, and this is the first step.

Thank you.
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1. The problem statement and attempt at solution

Given the matrix S_ij and a_i evaluate a),b),c),d) and e)



For a) I think i use Einsteins convention.
Yes, that is the sum of numbers on the main diagonal, also called the "trace".

b) I just first sum on i, and then on j giving me 9 terms. The answer I get is 24
?? I get 28, the sum of the squares of all terms. And, of course, (c) is exactly the same as (b).

d) can i change m with i since they are both dummy indexes?
Yes, but why would you want to? In any case this is the sum of the squares of the elements of a, 1+ 4+ 9.

e) the same problem as d I guess, is this allowed?
No, this is not at all the same problem as (d)! (d) was amam which is, as I said, the sum of the squares of the elements of a: the same as the 'dot product' of a with itself. In particular, there is no "S" in (d). (e) is Smnaman. Multiply the "matrix" S with the column vector a, then take the dot product of that with a.

I'm trying to learn continuum mechanics by my self, and this is the first step.

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Dafe
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Sep19-08, 08:43 AM
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I didn't mean that e) was the same problem as d), I just wondered if I could change the indices from m to i and so on... You've answered that though, thank you very much!

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Sep20-08, 03:39 AM
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Tensor - the indicial notation, beginners problem


I'll post some more questions here so I don't spam the forums, hope that's alright.

1. The problem statement and attempt at solution:



As I see it E_kk is a first order tensor and E_ij is a second order one. How do I go from E_ij to E_kk?

Thank you.
jimseng
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Jul28-09, 08:44 PM
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Try to find out what kronecker delta is! Then you will get the answer.


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