What's the motivation of using silver atoms in the Stern-Gerlach experiment?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the motivations for using silver atoms in the Stern-Gerlach experiment, exploring historical context, atomic properties, and experimental outcomes. It includes theoretical considerations and anecdotal elements related to the experiment's execution.

Discussion Character

  • Historical
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that silver has a single valence electron, which may lead it to behave like a spin 1/2 particle in a magnetic field.
  • Others argue that while silver has an atomic number of 47 and at least one unpaired proton, the effect on its behavior in the experiment is minimal due to the gyromagnetic ratio.
  • A participant highlights the serendipitous nature of the experiment, explaining that the original intent was to measure directional quantization of electronic orbits, not electron spin.
  • It is mentioned that silver was chosen for its ease of vapor production, which turned out to be fortuitous for observing electron spin due to its lack of orbital magnetic moment.
  • Anecdotal evidence is presented regarding the visibility of silver deposits on plates, which was aided by the reaction of cigar smoke with silver, leading to the discovery of electron spin.
  • Another participant references Stern's earlier work with silver gas, suggesting that this prior experience influenced the choice of silver for the experiment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the reasons for using silver, with some emphasizing atomic properties and others focusing on historical context and experimental conditions. No consensus is reached on a singular motivation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to specific atomic properties and historical anecdotes that may not fully encompass all factors influencing the choice of silver. The implications of the gyromagnetic ratio and the significance of earlier experiments are noted but not resolved.

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Historically the experiment was performed on silver atoms, but what's the reason of using silver?
 
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Silver has a single valence electron, so with all the other electrons paired up I think with regard to its interaction with a magnetic field it will appear as a spin 1/2 particle. You might say that since Ag has an atomic number of 47, and thus at least one unpaired proton, it should look different than a spin 1/2 particle, but since the gyromagnetic ratio goes like 1/m, this is a small effect. Ultimately nothing is special about Ag, as wiki says the experiment was also performed with H later on.
 
Good question.

There's a lot of serendipity involved here, since it was a successful experiment demonstrating something completely different from what they intended. They didn't know about electron spin, their intent was to measure what they called the 'directional quantization' (richtungsquantisierung) of the electronic 'orbits' within the Bohr-Sommerfeld model, i.e. what we now call the magnetic quantum number.

I think they chose silver simply because it's relatively easy to produce a vapor of silver atoms. That was a lucky choice, since we now know silver is s1d10 and has no orbital magnetic moment, so they ended up seeing the electronic spin magnetic moment instead. Then they had luck again, since they first couldn't see the silver deposit on their plate, but happened to be smoking cheap cigars. The hydrogen sulfide from the cigar smoke reacted to form black silver sulfide and "developed" the spots.

So they made the wrong choice when it came to finding what they intended to look at, but the right choice in terms of finding out what the Stern-Gerlach experiment is now famous for having found out - electron spin.
 
alxm said:
but happened to be smoking cheap cigars

That gave me a belly laugh. I hadn't heard that story before.
 
OK,thank you guys.
 

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