How Is Energy Stored? Answers & Explanations

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The discussion centers on how energy generated from renewable sources, such as solar panels and wind turbines, is stored or utilized, particularly during periods when these sources are not producing energy. Participants explore various methods of energy storage and the role of traditional energy sources in the overall energy mix.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how energy from solar panels and wind turbines is stored when these sources are not active.
  • Another participant mentions that energy from large wind turbines is typically not stored, while solar energy may be stored in batteries, but traditional energy sources can compensate when renewables are unavailable.
  • A different viewpoint expresses skepticism about the viability of "green energy," suggesting that traditional fossil fuels remain the primary energy source.
  • Some participants note that hydroelectric plants can pump water back up when excess energy is produced, indicating a method of energy storage.
  • There is mention of the percentage contributions of various energy sources in the US, highlighting the dominance of coal and nuclear energy in the energy mix.
  • One participant suggests that energy storage in the US primarily occurs by managing hydroelectric resources and natural gas plants.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the abbreviation "NG," which is identified as natural gas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on energy storage, with some supporting the idea of renewable energy storage methods while others contest the effectiveness and reliability of these methods compared to traditional energy sources. No consensus is reached on the overall effectiveness of renewable energy storage.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various energy statistics and methods of energy management, but there are limitations in the discussion regarding the specifics of energy storage technologies and their practical applications. Some assumptions about the reliability of renewable energy sources and the role of traditional energy sources remain unexamined.

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I'm curious as to how energy captured by things like solar panels and wind turbines are stored since they come and go so to speak. Wouldn't be necessary to store that energy when either the sun isn't shinning or when the wind isn't blowing? So my questions is how is it stored?
 
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Typically, the energy from large wind turbines is not stored. Energy from solar panels may be, with batteries. There is enough capacity with the more traditional energy production methods to make up the difference when renewables aren't available. There aren't enough renewables for it to be a big issue.
 
armolinasf said:
So my questions is how is it stored?

It's not. All this "green energy" is a load of BS, paid for by the government to quiet down the liberals and get democratic votes. The real energy still comes from the black stuff which runs 24/7.

Also in hydroelectric plants, I heard they pump water back up when too much energy is being produced.
 
Energy can be stored in batteries or else it has to be consumed as and when it is generated.
 
thanks for the replies, the article on capacitors was really informative
 
Curl said:
It's not. All this "green energy" is a load of BS, paid for by the government to quiet down the liberals and get democratic votes. The real energy still comes from the black stuff which runs 24/7.

Also in hydroelectric plants, I heard they pump water back up when too much energy is being produced.

Well, to be more accurate, the baseload capacity still comes from coal and nuclear, with hydroelectric playing a role as well.

(Coal alone makes up something around 60-70% if I remember right, at least in the US)
 
https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/content/energy/energy_archive/energy_flow_2009/LLNL_US_Energy_Flow_2009.png"

Electricity generation in the US for 2009:
Type Percent
Coal 47.92%
Nuclear 21.86%
NG 18.43%
Hydro 6.97%
Wind 1.83%
Bio 1.13%
Petro 1.02%
Geo 0.84%
Solar 0.03%
Total 100.00%
 
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To the extent energy is 'stored' in the US, probably most of this is done by not using hydroelectric (allowing the water level to rise), and by not using natural gas fired peak load plants.
 
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DaleSwanson said:
https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/content/energy/energy_archive/energy_flow_2009/LLNL_US_Energy_Flow_2009.png"

Electricity generation in the US for 2009:
Type Percent
Coal 47.92%
Nuclear 21.86%
NG 18.43%
Hydro 6.97%
Wind 1.83%
Bio 1.13%
Petro 1.02%
Geo 0.84%
Solar 0.03%
Total 100.00%

Interesting.. We don't rely on coal as much as people like to scare us.

What does NG stand for though?
 
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Nano-Passion said:
Interesting.. We don't rely on coal as much as people like to scare us.

What does NG stand for though?

Natural gas, I think.
 

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