How Tall Can a 273.1 x 12.7 CHS Steel Column Reach with Lateral Support?

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The discussion centers on the structural capacity of a 273.1 x 12.7 CHS steel column when laterally supported every meter. It concludes that this column can theoretically reach a height of approximately 3.9 kilometers without buckling, while a self-supported design would limit the height to around 2.5 kilometers due to its own weight. The conversation also explores the potential applications of this design in constructing yacht masts, earthquake-resistant buildings, and bridges. Participants emphasize the importance of using finite element (FE) analysis for validation and optimization of the proposed structural system.

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I have recently came across design capacity tables for structural steel (hollow sections). - In the table it shows that 273.1 x 12.7 CHS will not buckle at 1 metre of height (below that, size 219.1 x 12.7 at the same height will buckle at 10 kN less than full capacity if it were fully supported)... So if a continuous vertical length of size 273.1 x 12.7 tubing were laterally supported every 1 metre, the tubing should reach full height of around 3.9 km, right?

I have figured out the webbing method of that size tubing to be around 35% extra (self supported) weight... so works out to be somewhere around 2.5 km total height before it will squash from its own weight. - Smaller diamater = more webbing, larger diamater = less webbing. So if a large enough diamater were used you could probably get the webbing down to around 10% of the weight of the tubing... So around 3.5 km uniform section.

I am seeking input from anyone with access to (FE) computer analysis program who would be interested in doing a test with me. If I am right then the system could be used for anything from a yacht/ship mast to an, earthquake proofing, highrise building "spine" system... which could also double as the crane used for heavy lifting during construction. With a couple of simple changes can also be used for bridges.

Regards,
Dave
 
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If you extend your concept a little further you will put holes in the webs and create what is a self braced lattice column or tower, as is used for construction cranes, electricity transmission pylons and communication towers.
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