1st year ugrad at UofT; considering cosmology.

In summary, the conversation discusses the options for a first year undergraduate student at the University of Toronto who is interested in studying cosmology. The two specialist programs offered are Mathematics and Physics and Astronomy and Physics. The student is unsure if they need to take specific astronomy courses to understand advanced cosmology concepts, but it is suggested that a physics degree would be more beneficial. The conversation also touches on the differences between cosmology and astrophysics, and the recommended courses for preparing for graduate school in cosmology. A link to a Masters level course in cosmology is also provided.
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Hitchens
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Hello,

I am a first year undergraduate student at University of Toronto planning to pursue cosmology as a field of study in the future. There are currently two specialist programs being offered that relate to my interests (unfortunately, I was unable to find a direct link to the programs, so the reader will have to scroll down to get to the section listed as the specialist program; sorry about that). They are:

Mathematics and Physics Specialist
Astronomy and Physics Specialist

The programs provide course codes to various required and optional courses with links that lead to the course description.

My concern is as follows - will I be required to take certain courses in astronomy (eg. AST221, AST320 - links provided under Astronomy+Physics Specialist) to be able to grasp the advanced concepts in cosmology? I should mention that the only prerequisite to the advanced cosmology course is a 4th year general relativity course PHY484; thus it is not so much a matter of strict prerequisites, as it is of the required knowledge on my part.

However, this is the case in UofT. As I should also mention, I may choose - considering I get in - a different graduate school.

The deadline to enroll in the specialist program is 09/25/12. I will provide any other links required upon demand.

Thanks in advance,

Hitchens
 
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  • #2
Hitchens said:
Hello,

I am a first year undergraduate student at University of Toronto planning to pursue cosmology as a field of study in the future. There are currently two specialist programs being offered that relate to my interests (unfortunately, I was unable to find a direct link to the programs, so the reader will have to scroll down to get to the section listed as the specialist program; sorry about that). They are:

Mathematics and Physics Specialist
Astronomy and Physics Specialist

The programs provide course codes to various required and optional courses with links that lead to the course description.

My concern is as follows - will I be required to take certain courses in astronomy (eg. AST221, AST320 - links provided under Astronomy+Physics Specialist) to be able to grasp the advanced concepts in cosmology? I should mention that the only prerequisite to the advanced cosmology course is a 4th year general relativity course PHY484; thus it is not so much a matter of strict prerequisites, as it is of the required knowledge on my part.

However, this is the case in UofT. As I should also mention, I may choose - considering I get in - a different graduate school.

The deadline to enroll in the specialist program is 09/25/12. I will provide any other links required upon demand.

Thanks in advance,

Hitchens

Graduate schools are looking for someone that has a physics degree primarily and I can assure you that doing the math and physics specialist will be far more beneficial than adding an astronomy major. Cosmology is different than astrophysics or astronomy, cosmology is the study of the evolution of the universe (space-time) as whole and its origins. Astrophysics is the study of structures inside of space-time like galaxies or solar systems.
 
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Kevin_Axion said:
Graduate schools are looking for someone that has a physics degree primarily and I can assure you that doing the math and physics specialist will be far more beneficial than adding an astronomy major. Cosmology is different than astrophysics or astronomy, cosmology is the study of the evolution of the universe (space-time) as whole and its origins. Astrophysics is the study of structures inside of space-time like galaxies or solar systems.

Thank you for the quick reply. I will keep that under consideration. And you're right about the differences between cosmology and astronomy. What confused me was the description of some of the astronomy courses offered.
For example, AST222: Concepts of basic physics applied to a treatment of stellar systems and the structure of the Universe.
And AST320: The formation, equilibrium and evolution of structure on all astronomical scales from the largest to the smallest: universe, clusters of galaxies, galaxies, clusters of stars, gas clouds and stars.
 
  • #4
Hitchens said:
Thank you for the quick reply. I will keep that under consideration. And you're right about the differences between cosmology and astronomy. What confused me was the description of some of the astronomy courses offered.
For example, AST222: Concepts of basic physics applied to a treatment of stellar systems and the structure of the Universe.
And AST320: The formation, equilibrium and evolution of structure on all astronomical scales from the largest to the smallest: universe, clusters of galaxies, galaxies, clusters of stars, gas clouds and stars.

I'm not well versed in this but from what I've read from other people that have attended graduate school, if you chose to study cosmology in graduate school you'll learn the necessary material. Many people don't take general relativity until graduate school and you'll be ahead by taking Relativity I & II (graduate courses offered to undergraduates). I can't say a lot more but you won't be doing in depth cosmology in AST222 and AST320 until you learn general relativity.

For example, this is a Masters level course in Cosmology (the topics covered don't include things like galaxy structures etc but are much more theoretical): http://www.perimeterscholars.org/312.html
 
  • #5
Kevin_Axion said:
I'm not well versed in this but from what I've read from other people that have attended graduate school, if you chose to study cosmology in graduate school you'll learn the necessary material. Many people don't take general relativity until graduate school and you'll be ahead by taking Relativity I & II (graduate courses offered to undergraduates). I can't say a lot more but you won't be doing in depth cosmology in AST222 and AST320 until you learn general relativity.

For example, this is a Masters level course in Cosmology (the topics covered don't include things like galaxy structures etc but are much more theoretical): http://www.perimeterscholars.org/312.html

I have got to say, I am thoroughly impressed by the format presented on that website. I probably won't understand most of it till I am in grad school, but I am saving that link. Thanks again for all the help.
 

1. What is the curriculum like for a 1st year undergraduate student at UofT studying cosmology?

The curriculum for a 1st year undergraduate student at UofT studying cosmology will typically include introductory courses in physics, astronomy, and mathematics. You may also have the opportunity to take courses specifically focused on cosmology, such as cosmological principles and theories.

2. What research opportunities are available for 1st year undergrads interested in cosmology at UofT?

UofT offers a variety of research opportunities for 1st year undergrads interested in cosmology. You can apply for research assistant positions with faculty members, participate in research projects through the university's undergraduate research program, or join a student-run research group.

3. Can I double major in another subject while studying cosmology at UofT?

Yes, UofT allows students to double major in two subjects. However, keep in mind that cosmology is a highly specialized field and may require a significant amount of coursework. It is important to consult with an academic advisor to ensure that you can balance both majors successfully.

4. What career opportunities are available for students studying cosmology at UofT?

Graduates of UofT's cosmology program can pursue careers in a variety of fields, including research, academia, and industry. Some common job titles for cosmology graduates include astrophysicist, research scientist, and data analyst. Additionally, many students go on to pursue graduate studies in cosmology or related fields.

5. Are there any extracurricular activities or clubs related to cosmology at UofT?

Yes, UofT has several extracurricular activities and clubs related to cosmology, such as the Astronomy and Space Exploration Society, the Cosmology and Astrophysics Society, and the Canadian Undergraduate Astronomy Conference. These organizations offer opportunities for networking, attending lectures and workshops, and participating in outreach events.

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