Accelerometer vs. Gyroscope - measuring torque

In summary: They're also used in navigation and surveying applications.What are the pros and cons of either method?What are your thoughts? I can think of several tradeoffs, but we want to hear your thoughts first.
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HarryLime
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Summary:: accelerometer Vs gyroscope - measuring torque

Torque can be measured with an accelerometer (tangential-acceleration):
t = F*r and F=m*a, so we get a from the accelerometer, giving:
t = m*a*r Nm

Torque can be measured with an gyroscope (angular-acceleration):
t = F*r
The relationship between tangential (a) to angular (omega) acceleration:
[OK gyroscope gives angular-velocity, so differentiate this once and you get angular-acceleration]
a = omega*r m / s^2
Giving:
t = m*(omega*r)*r = m*r^2 * omega
or if we include the moment of inertia:
t = I*omega

Questions:
[1] Is the assessment correct, Torque can be measured with an accelerometer OR with a gyroscope?
[2] what are the pros and cons of either method?

This seems to sum it up nicely:
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Welcome to PhysicsForums. :smile:
HarryLime said:
Summary:: accelerometer Vs gyroscope - measuring torque

Questions:
[2] what are the pros and cons of either method?
What are your thoughts? I can think of several tradeoffs, but we want to hear your thoughts first.

Is this a schoolwork question?
 
  • #3
berkeman said:
Welcome to PhysicsForums. :smile:

What are your thoughts? I can think of several tradeoffs, but we want to hear your thoughts first.

Is this a schoolwork question?

Thanks berkeman, Yes this is background for homework! statements, pros & cons -
1. Accelerometer give signal based on linear acceleration or tangential if at the edge of a spinning obj (like the drawing above) - So accelerometers react to linear/tangential forces, which also include Gravity. They suffer from drift (good in the short term but very noisy in the long term due to additive error), noise (any acceleration effects the sensors).

2. Gysroscope give a signal based on angular velocity, like the spinning obj above - So gyroscopes react to rotational motion. They seem to suffer from drift & lag, though I'm unclear as to why. They are also more prone to temperature dependencies (?)

3. Both gyro & acc are often fused to to offset the other's noise and drift errors, providing more accuracy. So they are complementary.

This could do with more - assistance welcomed. how would I tie/combine these sensors together?
 
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HarryLime said:
So accelerometers react to linear/tangential forces, which also include Gravity. They suffer from drift (good in the short term but very noisy in the long term due to additive error),
...
So gyroscopes react to rotational motion. They seem to suffer from drift
How is drift relevant, if you are trying to measure torque?
 
  • #5
A.T. said:
How is drift relevant, if you are trying to measure torque?
yes
 
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HarryLime said:
yes
That wasn't a yes/no question.
 
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A linear accelerometer is not a good way to measure rotational motion because position relative to axis is a direct requirement. The rotational sensors have no such requirement and simply report any change in angular velocity regardless of linear velocity or acceleration. The MEMS sensors are quite remarkable.
What do you mean by a gyroscope?? Does anyone use them any more?
 
  • #8
hutchphd said:
Does anyone use them any more?
They're a reasonably decent way of keeping smaller aircraft from landing ahead of schedule.
 

What is the difference between an accelerometer and a gyroscope?

An accelerometer measures linear acceleration, while a gyroscope measures angular velocity. In other words, an accelerometer measures how fast an object is speeding up or slowing down, while a gyroscope measures how fast an object is rotating.

How do accelerometers and gyroscopes work together to measure torque?

Accelerometers and gyroscopes are often used together in an inertial measurement unit (IMU) to measure torque. The accelerometer measures the linear acceleration of the object, while the gyroscope measures the angular velocity. By combining these two measurements, the IMU can calculate the torque being applied to the object.

Which is more accurate for measuring torque - an accelerometer or a gyroscope?

Both accelerometers and gyroscopes have their own strengths and weaknesses when it comes to measuring torque. Accelerometers are more accurate at measuring low-frequency movements, while gyroscopes are more accurate at measuring high-frequency movements. For the most accurate measurement, both sensors are often used together.

What are some common applications of accelerometers and gyroscopes for measuring torque?

Accelerometers and gyroscopes are commonly used in a variety of industries and applications, such as aerospace, automotive, robotics, and sports. They are used to measure torque in engines, track movements in sports equipment, and stabilize drones and other vehicles.

Are there any limitations or challenges when using accelerometers and gyroscopes to measure torque?

One limitation of using accelerometers and gyroscopes to measure torque is that they can be affected by external forces, such as vibrations or magnetic fields. This can lead to inaccurate measurements if not properly accounted for. Additionally, these sensors can be expensive and require careful calibration to ensure accurate readings.

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