Altitude - Why is it a Scalar?

In summary, altitude of a mountain is considered a scalar because it only has magnitude and does not have a specific direction. While some may argue that it can have a negative value, it is generally defined to be non-negative. However, it is important to note that while there is a connection between scalars and vectors, they are not the same and have different properties, such as the ability to be multiplied. Altitude, being a measure of height, does not have a practical use for multiplication and is therefore considered a scalar.
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Homework Statement


How come altitude of a mountain is a scalar?

Homework Equations


Scalars = only magnitude
Vectors = have magnitude & direction

The Attempt at a Solution


- Doesn't altitude of a mountain have both magnitude and direction (direction being measured straight up 90 degrees to the ground?
 
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Altitude is a single number that gives the height above sea level. It cannot, for example, point to the north-west.
 
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Consider how a negative altitude would be handled. Is that the same as a magnitude and direction? Some people would treat it that way and other people would not.
 
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Scalars = only magnitude
That's the one I would challenge.
It is reasonable to define magnitude (of anything to which the term is fairly applied) to be non-negative, but it is not ok to say a scalar cannot be negative.
Though there is an obvious mapping between a field and a one-dimensional vector space over the field, that does not make them the "same". A field has a defined product operator, ##\times:\mathcal{F\times F\rightarrow F}##, whereas the vectors of a vector space do not in general have a product operator ##\times:\mathcal{V\times V\rightarrow V}##.
Thus, to be able to multiply signed numbers it is necessary to allow that they be neither vectors nor mere magnitudes.

In the specific case of altitudes, multiplying them does not make much sense. So perhaps it is more logical to regard altitude as a one dimensional vector.
 

1. What is altitude and why is it a scalar?

Altitude is a measurement of an object's distance from the Earth's surface or from sea level. It is considered a scalar quantity because it only has magnitude and no direction. This means that altitude only tells us the numerical value of the distance and does not indicate the direction in which the object is located.

2. Can altitude be represented as a vector quantity?

No, altitude cannot be represented as a vector quantity because it does not have a direction associated with it. In order for a quantity to be considered a vector, it must have both magnitude and direction.

3. Why is altitude considered a fundamental scalar quantity in physics?

Altitude is considered a fundamental scalar quantity in physics because it is a basic measurement that can be used to calculate other physical quantities, such as velocity and acceleration. It is also a fundamental concept in fields such as aerodynamics and meteorology.

4. How is altitude different from elevation?

Altitude and elevation are often used interchangeably, but they have different meanings. While altitude is a measurement of an object's distance from the Earth's surface or sea level, elevation is a measurement of an object's height above a specific reference point, such as a mountain summit or the ground. Elevation can be considered a vector quantity since it has both magnitude and direction.

5. Can altitude affect the behavior of physical systems?

Yes, altitude can affect the behavior of physical systems. For example, at higher altitudes, the air is less dense and therefore provides less resistance to objects moving through it. This can affect the performance of airplanes and other flying objects. Altitude can also affect the behavior of weather systems and the distribution of gases in the Earth's atmosphere.

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