Area of sphere-continuum mechanics

In summary, the conversation is about finding the area of a sphere using the integral ∫∫n⊗ndA, where dA = sinθdθdφ. The unit normal vector is mentioned and its purpose depends on the context. It is also mentioned that in spherical coordinates, the surface normal vector is the same as the unit vector in the radial direction. The conversation ends with a thank you for directing the person to the right answer.
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suppose I have a sphere that has radius with the vlaue of 1.
the integral is:∫∫n⊗ndA
where dA = sinθdθdφ

what is n⊗n?
I'm supposed to the area of the sphere.

This question was in an exam in continuum mechanics in the Technion
 
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It looks like the tensor product of the unit normal vector by itself. For which purpose such an expression is considered depends on the environment
 
  • #3
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What's the context? Usually ##\vec{a} \otimes \vec{b}## denotes the tensor product of two vectors. In Cartesian components it denotes the tensor ##T_{jk}=a_j b_k##. For a unit vector ##\vec{n}## it's also the projection operator to this direction, ##\vec{a}_n=\vec{n} \otimes \vec{n} \cdot \vec{a}=\vec{n} (\vec{n} \cdot \vec{a})##.
 
  • #4
I'm supposed to find the area of the sphere.

This question was in an exam in continuum mechanics in the Technion

what is n in sphere coordinates?
 
  • #5
If the sphere is determined by the equation ##\boldsymbol r=\boldsymbol r(\theta,\phi)## then the area element can be expressed in outdated terms as follows ##dA=\Big|\frac{\partial\boldsymbol r}{\partial \theta}\times\frac{\partial\boldsymbol r}{\partial \phi}\Big|d\theta d\phi##. I can not find another reason to mention the normal vector in this context
 
  • #6
On the surface of a sphere with its center at the origin, n is the same as the unit vector in the spherical coordinate radial direction.
 
  • #7
A sphere can be parametrized by spherical coordinates (with the exception of the two points at the polar axis):
$$\vec{x}(\vartheta,\varphi)=R \begin{pmatrix} \sin \vartheta \cos \varphi \\ \sin \vartheta \sin \varphi \\ \cos \vartheta \end{pmatrix}.$$
The coordinate lines build a mesh, defining tangent vectors which span the surface-vector elements
$$\mathrm{d} \vec{F} = \mathrm{d} \vartheta \mathrm{d} \varphi \frac{\partial \vec{x}}{\partial \vartheta} \times \frac{\partial \vec{x}}{\partial \varphi} = R^2 \sin \vartheta \begin{pmatrix} \sin \vartheta \cos \varphi \\ \sin \vartheta \sin \varphi \\ \cos \vartheta \end{pmatrix}.$$
The surface normal vectors are the unit vectors in direction of ##\vec{x}##, i.e.,
$$\vec{n} = \frac{\vec{x}}{|\vec{x}|}=\frac{\vec{x}}{R} = \begin{pmatrix} \sin \vartheta \cos \varphi \\ \sin \vartheta \sin \varphi \\ \cos \vartheta \end{pmatrix}.$$
To evaluate the surface of the sphere you just take the modulus of the surface vectors and integrate over ##\vartheta \in [0,\pi]##, ##\varphi \in [0,2 \pi]##:
$$S=\int_{0}^{\pi} \mathrm{d} \vartheta \int_0^{2 \pi} \mathrm{\varphi} R^2 \sin \vartheta=4 \pi R^2,$$
as it should be.

I'm still not sure, what all this has to do with your original question, where you look at a dyad (Kornecker product ##\vec{n} \otimes \vec{n}##), which is a 2nd-rank tensor by definition.
 
  • #8
vanhees71 said:
A sphere can be parametrized by spherical coordinates (with the exception of the two points at the polar axis):
$$\vec{x}(\vartheta,\varphi)=R \begin{pmatrix} \sin \vartheta \cos \varphi \\ \sin \vartheta \sin \varphi \\ \cos \vartheta \end{pmatrix}.$$
The coordinate lines build a mesh, defining tangent vectors which span the surface-vector elements
$$\mathrm{d} \vec{F} = \mathrm{d} \vartheta \mathrm{d} \varphi \frac{\partial \vec{x}}{\partial \vartheta} \times \frac{\partial \vec{x}}{\partial \varphi} = R^2 \sin \vartheta \begin{pmatrix} \sin \vartheta \cos \varphi \\ \sin \vartheta \sin \varphi \\ \cos \vartheta \end{pmatrix}.$$
The surface normal vectors are the unit vectors in direction of ##\vec{x}##, i.e.,
$$\vec{n} = \frac{\vec{x}}{|\vec{x}|}=\frac{\vec{x}}{R} = \begin{pmatrix} \sin \vartheta \cos \varphi \\ \sin \vartheta \sin \varphi \\ \cos \vartheta \end{pmatrix}.$$
To evaluate the surface of the sphere you just take the modulus of the surface vectors and integrate over ##\vartheta \in [0,\pi]##, ##\varphi \in [0,2 \pi]##:
$$S=\int_{0}^{\pi} \mathrm{d} \vartheta \int_0^{2 \pi} \mathrm{\varphi} R^2 \sin \vartheta=4 \pi R^2,$$
as it should be.

I'm still not sure, what all this has to do with your original question, where you look at a dyad (Kornecker product ##\vec{n} \otimes \vec{n}##), which is a 2nd-rank tensor by definition.
 
  • #9
thank you all very much! you have all directed me to the right answer
 

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The area of a sphere in continuum mechanics refers to the surface area of a three-dimensional object that has a uniform distribution of matter and properties throughout its volume. It is often used to calculate the surface tension and other physical properties of spherical objects in fluid mechanics and material science.

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